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I see that a lot of work went into the Wiki-2 column, so I want to start talking over the decisions made there. | I see that a lot of work went into the Wiki-2 column, so I want to start talking over the decisions made there. | ||
In particular, I want to see how many of these are intractable, and how Wiki-2 sifted through the ship types | In particular, I want to see how many of these are intractable, and how Wiki-2 sifted through the ship types | ||
| − | that "fall through the cracks". | + | that "fall through the cracks". [[User:Rje|Rje]] ([[User talk:Rje|talk]]) 17:36, 17 March 2022 (EDT) |
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Revision as of 21:36, 17 March 2022
This is the list of the ship mission codes from the T5.10 book (book 2, p. 68), but organized differently. The purpose of this is to take another attempt to reconcile the wiki Ship Classification (and Starship-Nav-Bar-Two-2019CE) with the T5.10 mission codes. This is a request to make sure the T5.10 codes are propagated forward.
The T5 mission taxonomy is included where it clarifies the mission code.
Mission Codes
| Letter Code Comparison | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ltr | CT GDW |
CT High Guard GDW |
T5.10 MWM |
Wiki-1 Jmattera |
Wiki-2 MSmelchak |
Remarks | |
| A | Free Trader | Merchant | (Commerce, Unscheduled) Trader | Trader | A-class Merchant Vessels (Tramps - Cargo & Low-volume Passengers)
|
Consistent. | |
| B | - | Battle | (Naval, Defensive) Boat (Private) Beagle |
Battleship | B-class Battleships
|
Consistent using Battle as a T5 Modifier. | |
| C | Cruiser | Cruiser; Carrier | (Naval, Principal) Cruiser | Cruiser | C-class Cruisers
|
Consistent. | |
| D | Destroyer | Destroyer | (Naval) Defender | Defender (SDB) | D-class Destroyers
|
HG and T5 differ. | |
| E | Escort | Escort | (Naval) Corvette; Escort |
Corvette, Escort | E-class Escorts
|
Consistent. | |
| F | - | Frigate, Fighter | (Commerce, Scheduled) Freighter | Fighter, Freighter, Frigate | F-class Fighters
|
HG and T5 differ. | |
| G | - | Gig; Refinery | (Naval, Major) Frigate | Industrial Vessel, Frigate | G-class Industrial Vessels (Commercial)
|
Probably OK to use T5. | |
| H | - | - | (Naval, Siege) Ortillery | Ortillery Ship, Security Vessel | H-class Security Vessels
|
Conflict. | |
| I | - | Intruder Vessel | - | Assault Transport, Intruder Vessel | I-class Combat Transports
|
Conflict. | |
| J | - | Intruder Vessel | (Private, Exploration) Prospector | Prospector, Seeker | J-class Prospector Vessels
|
HG and T5 differ. | |
| K | Safari Ship | Pinnace (small craft) | (Commerce, Charter) Safari, Expedition | Expedition Ship, Safari Ship | K-class Expedition Ships
|
Consistent. | |
| L | Lab Ship | Corvette, Lab Ship | (Private, Exploration) Lab | Lab Ship | L-class Science Vessels
|
Consistent. | |
| M | Subsidized Liner | Merchant | (Commerce, Scheduled) Liner | Liner | M-class Merchant Vessels (Freighters - Bulk Freight)
|
Consistent (HG, MT are in error) | |
| N | - | - | (Naval, Principal) Monitor (Private) Survey, Medical |
Hospital Ship | N-class Medical Ships
|
Conflict. | |
| O | - | Ordnance Vessel | - | Ortillery Vessel | O-class Ortillery Vessels
|
Conflict. | |
| P | Corsair | Planetoid Vessel | (Naval, Independent) Corsair, Marauder (Private) Picket, Patrol, Privateer |
Corsair Vessel, Patrol Ship, Fighter | P-class Corsair Vessels
|
HG and T5 differ. | |
| Q | - | Auxiliary | - | Auxiliary, Decoy | Q-class Military Auxiliary/s
|
HG and T5 differ. | |
| R | Subsidized Merchant | Liner | (Naval, Independent) Raider (Commerce, Scheduled) Merchant |
Merchant Vessel, Raider Vessel | R-class Merchant Vessels (Liners - Medium Cargo & Medium-volume Passengers)
|
Consistent (HG, MT are in error). | |
| S | Scout Vessel | Scout Vessel, Station | (Naval) Sentinel (Private) Scout, Courier, Messenger |
Scout Vessel | S-class Scout Vessels
|
Consistent. | |
| T | Patrol Cruiser | Tanker, Tender | (Naval, Siege) Assault (Naval, Auxiliary) Transport, Tender (Commerce) Transport |
Tankers & Transports | T-class Tankers & Transports (Bulk Trade Freight)
|
Conflict. | |
| U | - | - | (Commerce, Unscheduled) Packet | Utility Craft | U-class Utility Vessels & Utility Craft
|
Conflict. | |
| V | - | - | (Naval, Special) Destroyer | Carrier | V-class Subcraft Carriers | Conflict. | |
| W | - | Barge | (Naval, Auxiliary) Barge | Space Station, Barge | W-class Space Stations & Satellites & Barges (System Craft - Non-Interstellar)
|
Consistent. | |
| X | Express Ship | Express Ship | (Private, Information) Express | Communication Vessel, Tender | X-class Communication Vessels
|
Consistent. | |
| Y | Yacht | Yacht | (Commerce, Charter) Yacht | Yacht | Y-class Yachts (Private Craft)
|
Consistent. | |
| Z | - | Special | - | Unclassified Ship, Experimental Craft | Z class Special Mission Ships
|
Consistent. | |
Wiki-2 Amendment Discussion Starters
I see that a lot of work went into the Wiki-2 column, so I want to start talking over the decisions made there. In particular, I want to see how many of these are intractable, and how Wiki-2 sifted through the ship types that "fall through the cracks". Rje (talk) 17:36, 17 March 2022 (EDT)
A
- A-class Merchant Vessels (Tramps - Cargo & Low-volume Passengers)
Change to "Type A - Traders".
- Military Auxiliaries now go to Q-class
- Traders or Tramps remain
- All manner of traders: Free, Deep, Far, etc.
Remove all three of these. Auxiliaries have their own codes, and modifier codes take care of free, far, etc.
B
- B-class Battleships
Add in a new entry:
"Type B - Defense Boat"
(This is T5's way to accommodate SDBs)
Reword "Battle" as a modifier, not primary code.
- Monitors included
- Dreadnoughts included
Remove these two. Monitors have their own code. Dreadnoughts need a special mention.
C
- C-class Cruisers
Change to "Type C - Cruisers"
- Corvettes go to E-class
Keep this.
- No need to change. Weight tonnage cruisers remain
- Small (speed) Cruisers go to E-class
Remove both of these. Cruisers are Cruisers, even ACS.
D
- D-class Destroyers
Change to "Type D - Defenders"
- Anything not a destroyer goes to E-class
- Defenders and SDBs go to H-class
Remove both of these. Defenders have a code.
E
- E-class Escorts
Change to "Type E - Escorts"
- Includes all manner of tiny vessels
- Brigs, Corvettes, FACs, Sloops, etc.
- Patrol ships here if military and Imperial Navy. Otherwise to H-class.
Remove these.
F
- F-class Fighters
Change to "Type F - Freighter"
- Only fighters now
- Fighters = Dedicated combatant smallcraft (...mostly)
- Fighters bigger than 100 tons go to E-class or elsewhere
- Non-combat-dedicated utility smallcraft go to U-class
- Frigates go to E-class
- Freighters go to A, M, R, or T-class
None of this applies.
G
- G-class Industrial Vessels (Commercial)
Change to "Type G - Frigate"
- Frigates and Corvettes go to E-class
- Refinery
- Ag / Farming
- Factory Ships
- Refinery ships
- Largecraft tug
All should go away. We need discussions on Factories, Refineries, Farming (??)
H
- H-class Security Vessels
Change to "Type H - Ortillery"
- Defenders (SDBs)
- Hunter Vessels remain
- Sentinels
- Patrol Ships here unless dedicated Imperial Navy escorts at E-class
- Quarantine Ships here or in special missions at Z-class
- Ortillery Ships (Siege) go to O-class
- Tankers go to T-class
All of these except Hunters have mission codes. Need a discussion on MT Hunters.
J
- J-class Prospector Vessels
Rename "Type J Prospector Vessel"
- Prospectors and seekers remain
- Intruders go to I-class
Don't need either of these. Intruder is available as a modifier in T5.
K
- K-class Expedition Ships
Changes to "Type K - Safari Ship/Expedition Ship
- Colony Ships
- Exploration Vessels
- Safari Ships
- Beagles
- Couriers go to X-class or S-class if they are S/Cs
All these go away. Exploration vessels, including Beagles, have several different codes. Couriers are "S".
M
- M-class Merchant Vessels (Freighters - Bulk Freight)
- No changes although most named liners go to R-class
This is a swap error in High Guard. Revert to CT/T5 "Type M - Liner"
N
- N-class Medical Ships
Change to "Type N - Medical Ship"
- Ferries go to Q-class or U-class
Ferries deserve a discussion. I would assume they fall under T - Transport.
P
- P-class Corsair Vessels
Change to "Type P - Corsair Vessel, Marauder, Privateer, Picket, Patrol
- Planetoids get spread around by their role and function (P is a secondary modifier)
- Q-ships become PQ
Keep these.
- Fighters all go to F-class
- Raiders become PR
- Marauders
- Privateers
Remove these. Fighters need a discussion. Raiders have a code. The rest are Type P's.
Q
- Q-class Military Auxiliary/s
Change to "Small Craft"
- Hospital remain at N-class
Keep this.
- Military Speciality
- All manner of military auxiliaries
- Q-ships go to P-class
These aren't true. Q is used in T5 for designating small craft.
R
- R-class Merchant Vessels (Liners - Medium Cargo & Medium-volume Passengers)
Change to "Type R - Merchant"
- R now a dedicated merchant code
- Raiders go to PR
- Battle riders now classified by role or size (...becomes a secondary modifier)
Raiders have their own code. Battle Riders use the "R" modifier code.
S
- S-class Scout Vessels
Change to "Type S - Scout Vessel, Courier, Messenger, Sentinel"
- Sieges go to O-class
- Includes all sorts of other Scout vessels, but not explorers, which go to K-class expeditions
Remove these.
Sieges have three codes of their own to choose from.
T
- T-class Tankers & Transports (Bulk Trade Freight)
Change to "Type T - Transport, Tender, Tug, Assault"
- T-class are now dedicated transports and tankers
- Tenders go to V-class or elsewhere depending on role
- Patrol ships go to E-class if escorts and H-class if system defenders or security vessels
- Tugs go to G-class, Q-class, or U-class depending on size and user.
Remove these. Tugs stay here, as do Tenders. Patrol ships have their own code. Ferries probably go here.
U
- U-class Utility Vessels & Utility Craft
Change to "Type U - Packet"
- Packets ships go to X-class
- Ferries
- Smallcraft tug
- Jump Ship Jump cabooses, jump ferries that are not tenders
- Tugs remain or go to Q-class if military-dedicated
- Includes U-class smallcraft except fighters, which are F-class
Remove these. Ferries are Transports (Type T), as are Tugs. Small craft are Q*.
V
- V-class Subcraft Carriers
Change to "Type V - Destroyer"
- Carriers
- Tenders
- Some tenders go to X-class (Xboat tenders) or T-class if commercial
- Other possibilities are available although rare
Remove these. Tenders go to T, Carriers have modifier C.
Y
- Y-class Yachts (Private Craft)
Change to "Type Y - Yacht"
- All manner of privately owned craft
I suppose this is acceptable. What's the context?
- Including commuter or passenger smallcraft if system-dedicated and not elsewhere
I don't know, this sounds pedestrian for a "yacht".
Modifier Codes
| Qualifier/Modifier Code Comparison | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Code | CT | CT High Guard | T5.10 | Remarks | |||
| 2 | Far | Far | Far | ||||
| A | - | Armored | Alternate, Improved, Armored, Attack | ||||
| B | Battle | Battle; Boat | Boat, Bulk, Battle, Big | ||||
| C | Close | Cruiser; Close | Close, Carrier, Comms | ||||
| D | - | Destroyer | Defense, Interceptor | Conflict | |||
| E | Escort | Escort | Escort, Essential, Electronic Warfare | ||||
| F | - | Fast; Fleet | Fast, Fat, Frontier, Far, Flag, Free | ||||
| G | - | Gunned | Gunned, Upgunned, Gas | ||||
| H | - | Heavy | Fuel, Tanker, Hydrogen | Conflict | |||
| J | - | - | Survey, Prospector, Interface, Intruder | ||||
| K | - | - | Subsidized, Fast, Diplomatic | ||||
| L | - | Leader; Light | LR, Lifeboat, Exploratory, Light | ||||
| M | - | Missile | Military, Militia, Mercenary, Motivator, Tug | Conflict | |||
| N | - | Nonstandard | Naval, Nuclear, Fleet | T5 probably OK | |||
| P | - | Provincial | Patrol, Plus, Passenger, Mercenary | Conflict | |||
| Q | - | Decoy | Disguised, Decoy, Quarantine, Mother | ||||
| R | - | Raider | Recon, Rescue, Raider | ||||
| S | - | Strike | Slow, System, Special, Luxury, Small | Conflict | |||
| T | Transport | Troop; Transport | Tramp, Tender, Transport | ||||
| U | - | Unpowered | Unarmed, Hulk, De-activated, Inop | ||||
| V | - | Vehicle | Vehicle Carrier, Drone, Remote | ||||
| W | - | - | Unpowered, Non-jump | ||||
| X | - | - | Experimental, Special, Express | ||||
| Y | - | Shuttle; Cutter | Hull, Subhull, Pod, Rider, Modular | ||||
| Z | - | Experimental | Unassigned | ||||