User talk:Graham2001

Welcome to the Traveller Wiki. If you have questions you can leave a comment on my talk page or on the forum.

- Tjoneslo (talk) 07:19, 20 December 2016 (EST)

World Entry (2017)

When you are ready, let's do a phone call and I can easily explain the confusing parts.

- Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 11:38, 13 October 2017 (EDT)

Adding a subsector map (2016)

Use Template:InfoboxSubsector. If you read the page it has a list of parameters to the template and an example of how to use it. Copy and paste the {{InfoboxTemplate ... }} to the top of the page and replace the (for example) {Subsector Name} documentation descriptions with the actual values. For any value you don't know, leave blank. We can fill the values in later.

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This won't work quite correctly because the code to select the subsector doesn't work with the far away sectors (as Traveller Maps calls them). But that's for me to fix. Use the template, and I'll fix it. Tjoneslo (talk) 07:44, 21 December 2016 (EST)

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Ah, for this to work we'll need to put in a "Precipice Sector" page with the correct coordinates using the Template:InfoboxSector, and the x of 69 and the y of -60. This should get us in the ballpark location. Tjoneslo (talk) 07:56, 21 December 2016 (EST)

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Tried that and it didn't seem to work out. I have downloaded the subsector data from TravellerMap, is there any way to generate the map by transcribing the data?Graham2001 (talk) 07:02, 23 December 2016 (EST)

I have an (offline) map generator for subsectors. You can see an example here: Pretoria Subsector#Politics and Diplomacy : New Era. If you don't mind that map, the nice thing is we can use it to make a clickable image map too. Tjoneslo (talk) 07:42, 23 December 2016 (EST)

Morgonstjärnen 4

Two things, now that I'm catching up:

1. Do we have permission to post the data from this fanzine?
2. I created a {{World summary Im}} for adding these worlds. This omits the domain name.

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Thomas, thank you for creating the Im file.

• - Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 19:31, 16 October 2017 (EDT)

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Graham, aww shucks, thx for your kind comment. Yeah them Jaibok really deserve some love, one of the very first Big Bads that came out for Trav, when Theta B emerged back in 1980. They were covered in Grand Explorations too, a never-published DGP supplement by Mike Mikesh, that can be got in plain text format on CotI - those are my primary sources and truthfully the only written ones I actually know of.

Mavuzog itself was named and had polity borders within it, and Grand Explorations (I think, doubt it was Theta B) located and statted Vech, the Jaibok homeworld, but that was it really. So I created the sector and coded it up for Trav Map, y'know, the way you do. Honestly, everything else is pretty much head-canon. I have run everything past Marc of course, just to be sure I'm not stepping on toes or overstepping the mark or anything, and he seems to like it, so that's cool. Other folks have contributed too, and every now and again I discover weird little "easter eggs" in the sector, stuff that other folks have quietly added. Exciting!

I'm fortunate in that I can draw a little too - sometimes a piccie really is worth a thousand words, and doing an image of the Jaibok has really helped make them seem a bit more "serious".

Theta Borealis itself is, like you say, a bit of a can of worms. It really sucks, but also it is a little bit of history. An update was submitted, but we figured that anything we did would really fundamentally change the character of the sector, terrible though it is, so perhaps it was best to leave it alone and let individual referees tackle it as they prefer.

Alagoric (talk) 10:47, 26 September 2021 (EDT)

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Percavid Marches

Notes eh? Now you've gotten me really intrigued!

My understanding is that the Marches are a huge swathe of territory newly occupied by the Korsumug Empire, under the leadership of one Admiral Percavid (a name that doesn't sound entirely Jaibok, y'know). The region is considered Empire territory but as yet they are unincorporated into that polity, what with the dust still kind of settling after the invasion and occupation, so I imagine the fighting isn't entirely over yet and one or two fringe worlds still might escape the clutches of Korsu domination. I dunno if there was a minor polity there before, if it was empty territory, or what. For sure I'd like to know more.

Would having page entries for the various worlds of the Marches be of any use? I'm very happy to add them but I've shied away a little as an update to the sector data was being considered, though that was almost half a decade ago, so...

Alagoric (talk) 06:59, 16 October 2021 (EDT)

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It's possible Percavid may not be a Jaibok, but a Cultural Jaibok which might explain the name. As to the notes, it's something to help out making sense of some of the numbers. As with much of the early material there was little attempt to 'design' the sector. But the fact that five of the regions system are subordinate to another (unidentified) system (or systems) is a major clue as to what's going on there.

And given the fact that the authors had clearly watched 'Star Wars' (& Dr Who) I think that the film should be taken into consideration when looking at the area.Graham2001 (talk) 10:08, 16 October 2021 (EDT)

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Thanks mate, definitely interesting. Is Percavid a Jansa, maybe?

Yeah noticed the subordinate systems, interesting. I've pegged them as former Jelmart colonies and outposts, because Jelmart is the obvious choice and also because how its been done on every other sector I've worked on (big fish in the regional pond and all that). The map below is just speculative, but how does it grab you? I can instate it if it doesn't chew up anything you're doing, or make changes if you feel its missing something important. The Honiara belt is under Military Rule rather than being noted as an owned system, so I've left that as a former "NaHu" world - more story potential, troublesome belters and all.

Re allegiance codes, I've left the KoPm codes in place so the Jaibok occupation can be referenced against former member worlds. I can change that out to a fresh code if that's a better approach. Feedback and opinions very welcome, good sir. (Edit: forgot to mention, there is actually a second map done with the allegiance codes changed to JelM (Jelmiri Marches) and NaHu as appropriate - Jelmiri just kind of sounded more natural than Jelmirt Marches).

Alagoric (talk) 06:26, 17 October 2021 (EDT)

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I like the map, the fact that the previous state does not cover the whole region of the Percavid Marches, adds the possiblity for complexity in the 'Rebel Alliance', not everyone may want to become free under the rule of Jelmir and some may not be willing to put former disputes aside. As to Percavid being a Jansa, you have to wonder about the circumstances that sees the 'power behind the throne' stepping into the light. I have no doubt the Jansa may be pulling th e strings here, but which race is the facade behind which those strings are being pulled in this case, Humaniti?Graham2001 (talk) 22:28, 17 October 2021 (EDT)

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Superb stuff, many thanks indeed. Gradually working thru everything, cheers sir. You mention additional notes, for example on Perx. Where might I be able to find these? (want to be sure I'm including everything I can, not sure if I'm being my normal dumbass self and missing something)

With Oujda, I kind of figured the benefits do actually go two ways - the Confederation receives a steady stream of ridiculously discounted ships and equipment, enabling it to replace losses that would be crippling to other polities, and at the same time the activities (and location) of the Confederation serve to give Oudja a reasonably chunky buffer zone between itself and the depredations of the Jaibok.

On that note, it is perhaps a mark of pride to a Jaibok ship or crew that they have "ravaged every world on the Main". Very doubtful any ship could manage it, they'd be well inside Trooles territory for their final run, but perhaps jumping in-system, refuelling at an outer system gas giant, and then firing a few missiles at one of its moons before jumping out again qualifies as "ravaging", dunno. But, point to it being, that sort of "accomplishment" thing would drive a steady stream of Jaibok ships up the Main towards Trooles territory. And that's trouble, especially if there really is some kind of hidden repair base in the rimward part of Astron "Old Spacer's Tales"...

Alagoric (talk) 20:05, 18 October 2021 (EDT)