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Hi [[User:Jmattera]], would you please contact me off-board using E-mail at "Maksim_Smelchak" at that Yahoo place. Thanks! [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 13:09, 1 February 2015 (EST) | Hi [[User:Jmattera]], would you please contact me off-board using E-mail at "Maksim_Smelchak" at that Yahoo place. Thanks! [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 13:09, 1 February 2015 (EST) | ||
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Contact, Please
Hi User:Jmattera, would you please contact me off-board using E-mail at "Maksim_Smelchak" at that Yahoo place. Thanks! Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 13:09, 1 February 2015 (EST)
I sent you a not and you can drop me a note at jmattera1 @ gmail. Jmattera (talk) 13:40, 1 February 2015 (EST)
Hi Jmattera,
The Military starship nav bar is super cool, but hard to read with a black background. Any chance you could re-make it with a lighter, more-easily-read background such as white? LOL ;)
Maksim-Smelchak. (talk) Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 10:57, 17 January 2015 (EST)
Page Design Response
Hi Jmattera,
I think you should go for it and make your changes. That's what Wikis are for.
I like the idea of two pages Military Starship Types and Civilian Starship Types.
Wikies are supposed to be cross-linked, easy-to-read, well-organized, and accessible.
Traveller materials have always had that problem. I very much prefer the current Major Race pages compared to the old, highly-limited ones.
Maksim-Smelchak. Maksim-Smelchak Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 19:22, 16 January 2015 (EST)
Ship Class Single Page Treatment
Maksim-Smelchak, thanks for the information. Yes at times is is difficult to determine a good size for a page. I've run across both situations, pages too large and complex and pages too small and trivial that do not really justify themselves as entities which require independent existence. I tend to favor pages with a little more weight to them, but when it comes down to ship classes, I believe that each deserves a single page treatment.
On the other hand, I have been using the class summary pages such as Battleship as a means of linking together the smaller entities and provide an overall breath to provide for a better understanding subject matter. My goal is to make the summary pages a tool to make it easier to find all the ship classes of a particular type.
Unfortunately then there are pages such as the Starship Types page, which I consider way too big and with too much wasted space.
As a minimum I believe it should be split into two pages Military Starship Types and Civilian Starship Types, but I have been reluctant to make such a drastic change. I would appreciate your thoughts on how to reorganize that page in particular.
Other thoughts I have had is listing the various entities within the class across the page using tables, or just not listing them at all, but saving the class breakdowns for the class summary pages.
I'd be interested in hearing your opinions.
Jmattera (talk) 18:58, 16 January 2015 (EST)
(Header System)
Hi Jmattera,
Thanks! I'm with you.
I would like to see the Traveller Wiki entries more organized and interconnected like you.
A lot of the smaller entries almost never get seen such as Igsiirdi, a Vilani government entry, so now I've linked it to the Vilani entry.
I will work up a guide to using the (Header) system that I use.
Essentially it has three parts:
- (Entry Name), which is the name of the entry itself, such as Vilani
- (Category Name), which is the category or tag, usually at the bottom of the page, such as (Sophont).
- (Section Name), describes a section ith an entry, uch as (Synopsis), (Physiology), or (History).
So, that entry would read: "Vilani (Sophont) Synopsis"
The (Synopsis) part I important, it's a brief and quick definition or explanation of the entry so the writer can very quickly know what the entry is about. All of the entries benefit from that. And it's a standard Wiki practice.
Each kind of category in the Wiki has a pre-designed "template" of sections, that I designed to help organize and develop, or flesh out, the entry.
I'll work on more explanation for you.
Maksim-Smelchak. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 08:57, 16 January 2015 (EST)
So, for example, a creature entry would read:
Zh'a Cha'a (Creature) Synopsis
- Zh'a Cha'a are small, generally green lizard-like reptillianoids with sucker feet.
Zh'a Cha'a (Creature) Physiology & Ecology
- Physiological data.
Zh'a Cha'a (Creature) Diet & Trophics
- Zh'a Cha'a are largely insectivores.
Zh'a Cha'a (Creature) History & Advisory
- History of the beast and a JTAS advisory.
Zh'a Cha'a (Creature) References
- Sources.
Ship Listings
Thanks for the feedback.
It has been a real struggle to try to put some consistency and organization into the ship listings. Part of the problem is that I'm often taking someone else's creation and reworking it so that it makes more sense in my view. But again it is my view and I don't want to get into a flame war because my vision doesn't match up with another's views.
I've had several discussions with a retired navy guy, and he's helped to shape my actions in trying to organize the ship information. Please feel free to contribute your opinions. By the way it is great to see the mass of contributions you've made lately.
Can you provide some insight on your titling of headers? ie. Military, Government, etc. I am more likely to use category rather than including a category in a header line.
Jmattera (talk) 21:02, 15 January 2015 (EST)
Thanks Jmattera
Hi Jmattera, Thanks, mate! What you say make sense. By the way, I think you do some great writing and like your posts. Maksim-Smelchak. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 19:34, 14 January 2015 (EST)
Ship Tonnage Response
With the wide variance in tonnage, I'm not sure of the value of having it on that particular page.
Tonnage does not seem to be a good measure because there is a lot of variance not only between tech levels, but between ship classes within the same tech level. I've struggled with attempting to organize the various ships into some system that makes sense, which accounts for the way I've organized the ships on the sub pages. If you feel that there is some better why to present the information, I would appreciate your input. Jmattera (talk) 19:21, 14 January 2015 (EST)
Ship Tonnage Inquiry
Hi Jmattera, Could you add tonnage amounts to the "Starship Types" entries, please? Thanks! Maksim-Smelchak. 205.225.192.66 17:40, 14 January 2015 (EST)
Summary Type Pages
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