User talk:Tjoneslo/archive-2015

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This page is an archive of my talk page for the topics discussed in 2015. Please do not edit this page. If you want to respond to one of these issues, please add a new topic to my talk page

New User Maksim-Smelchak[edit]

Hi Thomas, I finished porting over the High Tortuga aliens. I remember reading somewhere that you had that as a future task. I am still cleaning up the entries though.

You're very welcome, Thomas. I mostly wanted to be in contact to make sure I am following the rules that you set down for the site. I've read all the guidelines and have experience with Wikis. Please contact me if I'm doing anything wrong. I want to be a cooperative member of the community.

  • Maksim-Smelchak. 10:03am, 9 January 2015 (PST)

Front Page Changes[edit]

Hi Thomas. I made a few front page changes based on some direction from FFE through one of its representatives. Thanks for allowing me to contribute to the Traveler Wiki. I'm happy to have you editing what I contribute and making sure I am compliant with the Wiki, writing guidelines, and FFE policies. I follow your contributions and my mistakes that you correct. Thanks again! Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 12:12, 23 January 2015 (EST)

"Eras & Editions" Table[edit]

Hi Tjoneslo, no worries about the Milieus page. I built a table entitled "Eras & Editions" on my user discussion page that I'd like you to look at when you get a chance. That's what I was doing. I'd love to hear your feedback. I've always wanted to build a table with that data. It can be highly confusing for even an experienced Traveller player (...since the late 1970's in my case).

If you like it, where does that table belong? On the Milieu's page? Somewhere else?  

Thanks. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 18:12, 29 January 2015 (EST)

Proper Way to Delete Pages[edit]

Hi Tjoneslo, I made some mistakes on the Gypsy Knights Games product pages that I will soon correct (You noticed the mistakes as well as the owner when I asked him to proof them).

How do I correctly (properly) get the mistake pages deleted?

I seem to recall reading about a {Recommended Deletion} tag or something like it... Please advise.

Thanks for all of your help and guidance. It is greatly appreciated. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 11:30, 5 February 2015 (EST)

Language Assistance Offer[edit]

Hi Tjoneslo, I noticed on the "Lost" Books page that user "" had posted a large section in the PORTUGUESE language. I am lucky to be able to read several European languages with great fluency and would be happy to help you with any translation work you might desire. I used to be a professional translator. I can read-write Spanish, Russian, Ukrainian, Hebrew, Arabic, and several others with great levels of fluency. That post looks like SPAM although it might have been the kernel of something more interesting. It looks like a military catalogue blurb. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 07:40, 12 February 2015 (EST)

P.S. If you have any other projects that I may assist with, I would be happy to pool our efforts. I am trying to finish up the Gypsy Knights Games pages right now. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 07:40, 12 February 2015 (EST)

T-Wiki Categories & Subcategories: How? Best Practices? Preferences?[edit]

Hi Tjoneslo, how do I build out Categories & Subcategories? I did read the FAQ for the Wiki, but I'm mostly asking to be consistent with past efforts and because I think you'd know your own preferences and best practices better than anything that was pre-written. Thank you! I've super appreciated all of your previous help. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 12:09, 24 February 2015 (EST).

The original tendency for creating categories was to use simple, one word items (e.g. canon, ships, dictionary). Wikipedia (which we've tried to emulate in some ways, used longer phrases (e.g. "Worlds with a Scout Base") categories. I still have a preference for the shorter names, but in reality use what makes the most sense and is understandable for the name of a group of things (or ideas).
For sub-categories, it is relatively easier to update them if we desire a change to category hierarchy. Also it's not tied to a strict hierarchy. So, for example, the "Aslan Clans" category can belong to both the "Aslan" and the "Organization" category. Now we can correctly find the group from both places.
I think is is possible to overdo number of categories. So if an article is put into one sub category, it doesn't necessarily need to also be in all the parent categories too. Tjoneslo (talk) 22:00, 24 February 2015 (EST)

Administrator to Cull SPAM[edit]

Hi Tjoneslo, I will volunteer to become an administrator, if you could use another one, and block SPAM'ers of which there have been a large number today. I'd be happy to follow your guidelines for blocking SPAM'ers. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 18:18, 5 March 2015 (EST)

Thank you for your offer. The problem is manually deleting the pages is an endless game of chasing your own tail. This Wiki has installed Abuse Filter extension. This has been working to stop a great deal of spam for a long time. This new wave simply needs some new, adjusted, filters to prevent it from showing up in the first place. The problem is it may prevent edits from some users. Well, the system warns the user they are triggering an abuse filter. Then allows the edit to go through. I'm going to give the new filters a day or two, and see if anything breaks. If you run into any problems please let me know. Tjoneslo (talk) 19:51, 5 March 2015 (EST)

Offer to Coordinate & Assist / Teamwork[edit]

Hi Tjoneslo, if uyou have any ideas how to work better as a team or know of ways we can support each other, please E=mail, PM, IM, or otherwise contact me. I would like to support your efforts as we did for the Beastmaker simple animal entries. I thought that worked out well.

If you get a chance, please E-mail me offboard and educate me more about the sector and subsector entries you have been making. I'd like to learn more and be more supportive of your goals and efforts. Thanks! Sincerely, Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 09:54, 29 March 2015 (EDT)

PBG Juxtaposition[edit]

As I go through Zarushagar Sector, I am increasingly noticing a common mistake: the PBG values are switched. Since the infobox for a world reads PGB and most entries including the T5SS read PBG, the B and G values have been switched on nearly 75% of the entries. Yes, only about 25% of them are correct according to T5SS. I stopped tracking it after about 50 entries so I don't know the exact statistical breakdown. Still, in my limited sampling, over 75% were juxtaposed incorrectly. This might call for some changes to be made to the template to avoid this very common error. Just bringing it to your attention. Thanks. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 14:50, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

I will look for an example. I didn't do many today. I mostly created and edited new entries. What I mean is, if a planet had a PBG value of 715. It came out as:
  • p 7
  • g 1
  • b 5

Instead of:

  • p 7
  • g 5
  • b 1


  • p 7
  • b 1
  • g 5
So, values are getting switched. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 19:07, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

Daily Spreadsheet Log Offer[edit]

> Second, I would like to ask to try the "Show Preview" functionality when you edit articles. I know it is a different workflow. Do this by pressing the "Show Preview" button (rather than the "Save Page" button) while you are editing the article. This will show the article as it would appear, and you can continue to edit it. The reasons for this is to keep the Recent Changes list a little smaller, which makes reviewing it for changes (like the talk page requests) faster and easier. Thanks. Tjoneslo (talk) 18:47, 6 May 2015 (EDT)

Tjoneslo, I've tried the "Show Preview" functionality a number of times and I am not having any luck keeping up the speed and accuracy with which I usually edit and add to the site. I will keep trying and see if I can increase my technical proficiency to your level, but in the mean time, I thought I'd offer you this: Perhaps I can input daily data into a spreadsheet to make your log easier to keep. I will keep trying, but I wanted to try to offer you something else in appreciation for what you've done since I am having difficulty getting my technical proficiency to the desired level requested by you. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 18:08, 1 June 2015 (EDT)

Trade Classification Codes[edit]

Thank you User:Tjoneslo, for turning my trade classification code summaries into a coded app. I bet that will be a great asset for the Wiki. Appreciate your thoughtfulness and hard work. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 12:18, 20 June 2015 (EDT)

Thanks for your catch on the incorrect fluid world summary (I had it labeled with H2O when it should have been non-H20). I'd like to collaborate more on this kind of asset for the Traveller wiki and its users. If you have any ideas, let's collaborate and make them happen. Thanks, Thomas! Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 09:48, 21 June 2015 (EDT)

Category Imperial Research Station vs Worlds with a research station[edit]

It appears that there is some overlap between the two categories. Does it make more sense to list the specific worlds on the world page and just retain the other category for specific Imperial Research Stations? The other possibility would be to combine the two categories. Your thoughts? Jmattera (talk) 20:41, 29 July 2015 (EDT)

I think the Category: Imperial Research Station should be for the articles about the research station(s). Category: Worlds with a research station should be for the worlds where the Research Station(s) are located. There really shouldn't be any overlap between these two. Tjoneslo (talk) 01:52, 30 July 2015 (EDT)

PBG Listing in UWP[edit]

Hi User: Tjoneslo, I have a request for you. Would you please list future UWP's with the PBG in that order? It drastically reduces the amount of key strokes I need to perform when updating files. Thank you. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 11:42, 19 August 2015 (EDT)

List where? In the {{UWP}} template? or in some other list I've been creating?
When you create new worlds. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 13:19, 19 August 2015 (EDT)
{{UWP |name= |uc = |popc = |zonec = green |ui= |u0= |u1= |alg = |class = |trade = |nblty = |bases =
|primary = 
|belts   = 
|GGcount = 

Also, Spinward Marches Sector will be done soon. What would you like me to do next? Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 11:42, 19 August 2015 (EDT)

I'm assuming you've completed the Solomani Rim Sector worlds. There are the Domain of Ilelish worlds you put in with incomplete templates that could be updated too. And you have very long list incomplete projects on your user page. All of which look good to me, so no real preference. Tjoneslo (talk) 13:16, 19 August 2015 (EDT)

OK. Thanks! Solomani Rim is done. And everything needs updating. Such is the life. LOL Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 13:19, 19 August 2015 (EDT)