Talk:Home (Al 1009) (world)

Notes (2008)

Well, I was cross checking some items and trying to update the UWP and I ran across a problem. I can't find Home....

I checked the location (nothing) and also went so far as to see if a system matches the system description. The only match in the SEC files would indicate:

Dudley/Aldebaran (Aldebaran 1610 C866245-8) Lo Ni 411 F7 V

Now what do we do?

- Sstefan 13:01, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

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There are two ways of looking at this discontinuity: The Aldebaran SEC file source isn't (as far as I can tell) from any canon source. So changing the non-canon source to match canon isn't difficult. Or It was renamed and then everyone moved in. The First Survey finds Dudley with the small population. Six hundred years later the Solomani, in a fit of propaganda, rename the world and move in. Second Survey scouts aren't allowed in, so they use the old data. Tjoneslo 13:19, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

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It isn't that Dudley wouldn't fit the description, or that we could rewrite Home to fit (name change and all that); According to the SEC files there is no system at Aldebaran 1009. --Sstefan 14:02, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

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According to Alien Module 6: Solomani, Home is never given a precise location in Aldebaran sector. It only says "about 30 parsecs from Terra". But does provide the UWP and system details. Aldebaran Sector should be a dot map in Alien - Solomani and Aslan. The Aldebaran sector data was (as far as I can tell) generated by Jo Grant and the CORE group, which has then been duplicated across other mapping websites. I'm assuming that S&A is the source of the "1009" hex location of Home (most of the text of this Home article is a copy of the AM6 entry). This means that the Sector file doesn't match the dot map, or the dot map and the text of the book don't match. I don't know which since I don't have S&A to verify. Tjoneslo 23:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I also do not have S&A, so I can't verify that piece of information.

You just brought up a good point about references, which are still boxed up after the move just before Christmas. I think I'll finally get to listing them so that I know exactly what I have.--Sstefan 12:34, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

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How about contacting Jon Zeigler and asking him what he came up with when he was working on the Aldebaran sourcebook? It can't be any less canonical than any other solution, and there's always a chance that he may get back to the project one day, in which case we'd already be canonical when the book came out! ;-) I don't know how likely that is, but in any case I'm sure that Jon has considered the problem and will be pleased to have a bit of his work turn out useful.

- Rancke 14:37, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the idea...I just sent this

Jon,

I was cross checking some items within the Wiki Traveller and trying to update the UWP and I ran across a problem. I can't find Home....

Please read the full discussion on the link below;

http://traveller.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Home_%28Al_1009%29_%28world%29

Feel free to contribute to the discussion and lets see if we can’t resolve this for the rest of the Traveller community.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Steve

Lets see what happens.--Sstefan 16:05, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Checking Solomani & Aslan (2008)

I just asked Mr Fetter on CotI, who has a copy of S&A to check the the book for updated information. His answers were as follows:

1. S&A explicitly states that Home is in hex 1009.
2. The sector data generated by Jo Grant (from the CORE site, which you have and is used by the travellermap.com site) reasonably matches the dotmap in S&A.
3. The dotmap in S&A does not have a star in location 1009.

So I, too, would like to see what Jon has to day about the location of Home.

- Tjoneslo 02:40, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

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I found that I have the Atlas of the Imperium and took a look at Antares Sector on page 9 and there is a open "hex" in that location. Both the Atlas and S&A are marked as canon, with a conflict as to the location (existence???) of Home..

... gee Ma, I wanna go oh. But they won't let me go oh...ho, oh oh ho, oh ho oh oh oh home...HEY!.

OOPs, twenty years of the Army will do that for you.--Sstefan 17:20, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

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Antares or Aldebaran? I didn't think Aldebaran was in Atlas nor was part of the Sunbane releases. The only canon we have for the sector is in S&A. Tjoneslo 17:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

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Never mind.. it was Antares I found, not Aldebaran (what I was looking for..).--Sstefan 20:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)