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I have added a "Solomani Rim War" heading, to handle Traveller20's period of 993. This is a time period much too late to be under the First Survey, yet it's still too early for the Second Survey. My edit has only changed the display on this page, and has not been replicated to UWPs in the Wiki. If someone more knowledgabe about Wiki can do the necessary editing, I (and other fans of the T20 / Solomani Rim War setting) would sure appreciate it!

It took forever, but it seems to work now - without breaking all the other worlds in the meantime... Travalv 17:24, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I have changed the default date of Classic Traveller data from 1120 to 1115. This avoids controversy due to GURPS Traveller/Rebellion divergence, and also avoids the problem of worlds that were damaged by the Rebellion by 1120, but not in 1115.

A case can be made that the actual "Classic Traveller baseline" should be 1105, pre-Fifth Frontier War. Travalv 18:24, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Nice update, Travalv! Gruffty 20:20, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Updates

(This is a continuation of a discussion on the Template talk: InfoboxSystem page.)

I would love to update this template to incorporate the extended system information. The PBG number, the primary (and other stellar types), bases, trade codes, and other extended information. We had one user request (see Projects) the extended UWP include the written version (like the GURPS Traveller: Behind the Claw, and GURPS Traveller: Rim of Fire) of the UWP codes. It would also be nice to get rid of the Template: UWPAmber and Template: UWPRed, instead incorporating a "zone" parameter. And, to be complete, Rindis asked if we could add a notation that there is a system writeup for this world.

The difficulty is, if the UWP template is to support mulitple era's, some of this data changes while others of it does not. And does do not in a manner that allows for easy translation from the Extended system sector files to the UWP template. Tjoneslo 00:28, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Could you, with some fancy programming cause a row's background to go yellow or red if an optional parameter for that line was "A" or "R"?
I'm thinking you might also do a footer for the UWP box that could contain the gas giant, belt and star data. At that point, all that's missing is the population multiplier, which also varies by time (not sure what to do about that). The same footer might be a place to stick a system link, when/if it exists.
And while I'm making grandiose plans for everyone's time, I'm thinking it would be best for the UWP template to carry the header data directly. It would be a lot of work to convert everything over, but it would allow people to use the World and WorldS templates as personal taste and context decide, and SectorWorlds2 can use the actual UWP template to create its links, which should be a lot easier to manage in the long run.
I also think it would be nice to emulate the GURPS written out data. I consider it a lower priority than, oh, good maps (^_^), but it can also contain data that the UWPs don't have, such as the climate type. On the other hand, Traveller would generally use kilometers for planet diameter, and GURPS users (who are used to seeing it spelled out) would expect miles, so there's other issues to work out before such a project. --Rindis 17:38, 12 November 2007 (UTC)