Talk:Zhodane Sector

Zhodane Sector Talk (2023)

Another old Zho space analyst here. In my opinion, "Zhodane" is an analog for "Zhodani Space", and is misused in both the Imperium and here. Also, "Gaval" is not a normal Zdetl word. Much like the Subsectors in the Marches, it was named (and spelled) before there was any linguistic study done. It is most likely a mistranslation of "Qaval" or even "Qavl".

--GypsyComet (talk) 12:37, 9 December 2023 (EST)

Zhodane Sector Talk (2017)

I'm in a pickle here.. according to what I recall, all the world under Zhodani control should be rated as an Amber Zone (at the very least)... I don't recall the reference at this time; any suggestions? Ssteve (talk) 21:33, 24 January 2017 (EST)

The "Amber Zone" for Zhodani worlds is an Imperial recommendation, usually applying to worlds in the Spinward Marches sector. It should not be applied as a general rule to the Zhodani worlds. Tjoneslo (talk) 22:31, 24 January 2017 (EST)

Even though this is the AAB (better known as the Imperial Encyclopedia)?

Or should we just treat this as a "non-political" (as per OTU) set of data?

Ssteve (talk) 22:39, 24 January 2017 (EST)

Zhodane Sector Talk (2015)

Tjoneslo, why does "SectorWorlds" work here, but not "SectorWorlds2" or "SectorWorlds3"? Thanks. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 02:49, 17 October 2015 (EDT)

The second parameter to the template needs to be capitalized. (e.g. "Sector", not "sector"). You asked this about other places to, and the answer is probably the same. Tjoneslo (talk) 10:05, 17 October 2015 (EDT)

Thank you! Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 10:19, 17 October 2015 (EDT)

Zhodane Sector Notes? I have been reading over the Zhodane Sector UWP notes and noticed some odd, non-standard codes.

• D1
• D2
• D3
• D4
• C1
• C2
• C3
• C4

Much of that data was written by William Dover ("Aeontrin") and Clayton R. Bush of the HIWG in the late 1980's after Classic Traveller Alien Module 4 Zhodani was written.

*** Does anyone know what those non-standard codes mean? ***

Thank you! Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 09:01, 17 October 2015 (EDT)

D2 = 20% Droyne population.

C4 = 40% Chirper population.

Courtesy of Roman Rieger Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 09:53, 17 October 2015 (EDT)

Zhodane Sector Talk (2009)

Both Clay and I missed the Supplement 11 reference. I did not have Supplement 11 with me when I did the UWPs (by hand, with dice, same with the system names). Not having this, I generated a new subsector name using the language tables for the one where Zhodane is. Clay then took my notes, modified some of the names I had sent in, and typed them up. Now, as the sole surviving author of this sector, I would be happy to make the changes, but at this point, I don't how to propagate the changes out to the various copies out on the internet.

To be fair to HIWG, the group did a lot of its work by snail mail, with that mail at times having to cross oceans. It was tough work back then as many contributors passed typed or even handwritten notes of their work around. Sector generators were not that widespread in the '80s and '90s and many sectors were done by hand. I still have lingering around my archives handwritten notes for another Zhodani sector sent to me from Australia. I think a little more respect and a little less criticism might be in order. This paragraph will probably be edited out, of course, but I feel that some explanation was warranted. Aeontrin 21:35, 6 June 2009 (EDT)

I am aware of the limitations that HIWG worked with and am both amazed and appreciative of the amount of work you did. If you have the time, I would love to make sure that your work is correctly reflected in all or many of the Traveller sites around the web.

The starting point we're using the Zhodane sector is Berka's site, and the data distributed with Galactic. I'm not sure how many editing hands it has been through since your original.

If that data file is incomplete or inaccurate, and I'll be happy to hand check it from your notes, I'd love to see it corrected. The map (from Traveller Map) is from the same source and I can make sure it gets updated too. Tjoneslo 15:52, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

TMK, the subsector name is the only thing wrong. I went back and check the 0309 designation against the sector map and I think it lines up correctly. If we have anything else wrong with the sector, please let me know via email. Aeontrin 16:40, 6 July 2009 (EDT)

Zhodane Sector Talk (2007)

Note that the entry for Zhodane (world) puts the capital in Gaval subsector, however that subsector does not appear on this map. Dcorrin 22:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Yay for the HIWG people. Supplement 11 clearly states Zhodane is in the Gaval subsector. However none of the other references have any mention of the other subsector names. The Zhodane sector from Galactic has the following note: 'Original data by William Dover and Clay Bush' {see [1]).

In order to match with official canon, you should to change the name of 'Zhdant' subsector to 'Gaval'. The 0309 designation in Supp11 is the subsector location, not sector location. Tjoneslo 23:01, 3 July 2007 (UTC)