Talk:Deck Plan 3: Empress Marava

Technically this set of plans, and the other Deck plans, are not GURPS Traveller restricted. The documents do not carry the GURPs imprint in the main title, and are stated to be compatible with all forms of Traveller, including GURPS Traveller. They are published by SJG.OGuutan (talk) 16:09, 21 April 2015 (EDT)

I'm not sure whether they should be listed as GURPS Traveller in the Wiki, but there isn't really a way of saying "all".OGuutan (talk) 16:10, 21 April 2015 (EDT)

You're right. Please correct my mistake. Thanks! Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 16:20, 21 April 2015 (EDT)

How do you think they should be listed in the [[InfoboxBook}} block? This includes a version value, but there isn't really a generic version. At the moment they are listed as there as GT. Should that be changed as well, and if so, what to? It's easy to remove the GT tag from the name of the document in a Source box, but not so easy in the info box. I also noticed that you change the author to "Various" in the info box. There is no specific Author listed on the document, is "Various" the way no specific Author is covered in the Wiki? OGuutan (talk) 16:27, 21 April 2015 (EDT)

There is no one right or wrong way. The Traveler Wiki is a little Hiver-like in that regard. I like to work the publication Infoboxes that way, but, in the end of ends, it's really up to the person doing the edits. TJonesLo is the "List-Mom" or chief administrator so I respect his calls, but we're still an all-volunteer community, as far as I know. Ultimately, I write and edit because I enjoy the experience and have fond memories of Traveller from the late 1970's and 80's. It's nice to build up a public resource for the entire community. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 16:46, 21 April 2015 (EDT)

I use the following defaults:

• Default to the publisher if no version is specific or write "Generic"
• Default to 1st edition if none is specified.
• Default to "Various" if there are many authors and contributors.
• Default to Non-canon if canon is not known. Or, more often, not clear since Marc Miller is the sole arbiter of canon.

Ultimately, it's up to you. Don't hesitate to ask for TJonesLo for help or advise, if you need it. Since he is the "Keeper of the Flame", I treat his word as authority. Plus, he's one heck of a nice guy. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 16:46, 21 April 2015 (EDT)

Thanks for the advice. I've removed the GURPS Traveller from the Source references on other articles, but I am tempted to leave it in the info box as the SJG list is where people will tend to look and the GT reference seems more appropriate there. If TJonesLo reads this, maybe he can offer further advice. The other point is that there are various ship class data lists within the various documents. I'm not sure I'm up to adding ship designs yet! I'll scan the covers and get them included. Thanks again. OGuutan (talk) 17:08, 21 April 2015 (EDT)

The ship design and techy gearhead guys do that. I'll check my notes for their names and let them know that you'd like to pitch in on their efforts. They'd be delighted to have some help. Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 17:40, 21 April 2015 (EDT)

In general the defaults discussed by Maksim-Smelchak are good. The only thing I would change is to suggest having the author field include the most important names from the book. E.g. primary author(s) for books, Editor for magazines, primary artist for books like this one. Unless there really is more than 5 authors on a book, avoid the use of "Various".

The version field, if omitted from the template, will default to "Generic". There is already a Category: Generic Books, which can have more entries as needed.

Last bit of advice: For the publisher and version parameters, use bare links. e.g. [[Steve Jackson Games]] rather than the longer [[Steve Jackson Games|SJ Games]]. The reason is the {{infoboxBook}} template chops up the link to create the category links. The more complex the links, the more likely the template is to break.

Defining what is or is not canon is listed here : Category:Canon. If it's on the list, it is canon, if not it isn't. But note the list isn't constant and may be changed in the future.

Otherwise this looks great. Thanks for your contributions. Tjoneslo (talk) 20:34, 21 April 2015 (EDT)