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: - [[User:WHULorigan|WHULorigan]] ([[User talk:WHULorigan|talk]]) 20:10, 19 March 2016 (EDT) | : - [[User:WHULorigan|WHULorigan]] ([[User talk:WHULorigan|talk]]) 20:10, 19 March 2016 (EDT) | ||
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| + | : '''''Comment (2025)''':'' | ||
: Note that I originally left this statement from the source document out when I compiled the write-up: | : Note that I originally left this statement from the source document out when I compiled the write-up: | ||
:: ''Jae Tellona is the only inhabited [[world]] of the Jae Tellona system. In addition to the mainworld, the system contains one large [[gas giant]] with an impressive satellite system of its own, '''two "linked" small gas giants''', an asteroid belt, and a number of unremarkable planetoid–sized bodies scattered in between''. {{Page cite|name=Compendium 1|page=12|citeName=Mongoose Traveller: Compendium 1}} | :: ''Jae Tellona is the only inhabited [[world]] of the Jae Tellona system. In addition to the mainworld, the system contains one large [[gas giant]] with an impressive satellite system of its own, '''two "linked" small gas giants''', an asteroid belt, and a number of unremarkable planetoid–sized bodies scattered in between''. {{Page cite|name=Compendium 1|page=12|citeName=Mongoose Traveller: Compendium 1}} | ||
: I do not know what this means (and I even put it to the CotI Board to see if anyone else could figure it out). The best guess anybody had is that it was a piece of draft text that accidentally made it thru editing to the final published document. What does the phrase ''"two linked small Gas Giants"'' mean? Linked to what, and how? | : I do not know what this means (and I even put it to the CotI Board to see if anyone else could figure it out). The best guess anybody had is that it was a piece of draft text that accidentally made it thru editing to the final published document. What does the phrase ''"two linked small Gas Giants"'' mean? Linked to what, and how? | ||
| − | :: | + | :: - [[User:WHULorigan|WHULorigan]] ([[User talk:WHULorigan|talk]]) 14:50, 30 May 2025 (UTC) |
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| + | From '''''MgT Compendium 1''', p.12:'' | ||
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| + | : ''"There is a single large gas giant locked in a solitary orbit and a pair of twin gas giants, which are fairly small. The pair of small gas giants are in possession of an unusually high periodicity, as well as being closely linked in their stellar orbits, making them all but inaccessible throughout most of the Jae Taellonan year"''. | ||
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| + | I do not understand these sentences, or what they are trying to relate about the system configuration: | ||
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| + | * ''"There is a single large gas giant locked in a solitary orbit . . . '' | ||
| + | :* What does it mean that the large gas giant is "locked" in a solitary orbit? | ||
| + | ::* Tide Locked? - It shouldn't be as a Gas Giant. | ||
| + | ::* A solitary orbit? - As opposed to what? | ||
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| + | * ''". . . and a pair of twin gas giants, which are fairly small.'' | ||
| + | :* Does this mean they are both in the same circumstellar orbit, and orbiting each other about their common barycenter ("a pair", "twin")? Or is it just a note about their similarity to one another? | ||
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| + | * ''"The pair of small gas giants are in possession of an unusually high periodicity, as well as being closely linked in their stellar orbits, . . . '' | ||
| + | :* What periodicity? In orbiting each other, or in their independent stellar orbits? If they are co-orbiting each other with high periodicity, then they are in a close orbit about each other by definition; but then it is redundant to say that they are "closely linked" in their stellar orbits, because they are in the same orbit together. - What does ''". . . closely linked in their stellar orbits..."'' mean? Are they intended to be mutual quasi-satellites on independent but nearly identical circum-stellar orbits (i.e. the one has a transitional orbit with slightly higher eccentricity relative to the other, but roughly the same average orbital distance)? Then high periodicity necessarily implies they are close inner system bodies (perhaps "Hot Gas Giants" - is this why they are inaccessible though most of the year?). | ||
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| + | :* --[[User:WHULorigan|WHULorigan]] ([[User talk:WHULorigan|talk]]) 17:31, 5 June 2025 (UTC) | ||
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- Note that everything in the '''Other Data (Era: New Era)''' section is '''''Non-Canonical''''', and is taken from ''RICE Paper SM 2814'' by ''Christopher Griffen''. | - Note that everything in the '''Other Data (Era: New Era)''' section is '''''Non-Canonical''''', and is taken from ''RICE Paper SM 2814'' by ''Christopher Griffen''. | ||
: - [[User:WHULorigan|WHULorigan]] ([[User talk:WHULorigan|talk]]) 07:58, 18 July 2016 (EDT) | : - [[User:WHULorigan|WHULorigan]] ([[User talk:WHULorigan|talk]]) 07:58, 18 July 2016 (EDT) | ||
Latest revision as of 14:25, 1 July 2025
Base Data (2016)[edit]
- 2814 Jae Tellona A560565-8 De Ni Pr Mr {-1} (B43-3) [3436] Bc N - 913 9 ImDd F9 V
Subsector: Rhylanor / SM
Hex Name SAH MSPR Gs APres DCl DNum Clim AU TLk TF Ali SJLm Star(s) 2814 Jae Tellona 560 7-7 0.55 0.71 MIr 4.82 Norm 8.75 N Y ? 6.2 F9 IV
Notes (2016)[edit]
MgT has a write-up of Jae Taellona in MgT: Compendium 1, p.12 that is theoretically canonical since it is detailed in a published source.
- - WHULorigan (talk) 20:10, 19 March 2016 (EDT)
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- Comment (2025):
- Note that I originally left this statement from the source document out when I compiled the write-up:
- Jae Tellona is the only inhabited world of the Jae Tellona system. In addition to the mainworld, the system contains one large gas giant with an impressive satellite system of its own, two "linked" small gas giants, an asteroid belt, and a number of unremarkable planetoid–sized bodies scattered in between. [1]
- I do not know what this means (and I even put it to the CotI Board to see if anyone else could figure it out). The best guess anybody had is that it was a piece of draft text that accidentally made it thru editing to the final published document. What does the phrase "two linked small Gas Giants" mean? Linked to what, and how?
- - WHULorigan (talk) 14:50, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
From MgT Compendium 1, p.12:
- "There is a single large gas giant locked in a solitary orbit and a pair of twin gas giants, which are fairly small. The pair of small gas giants are in possession of an unusually high periodicity, as well as being closely linked in their stellar orbits, making them all but inaccessible throughout most of the Jae Taellonan year".
I do not understand these sentences, or what they are trying to relate about the system configuration:
- "There is a single large gas giant locked in a solitary orbit . . .
- What does it mean that the large gas giant is "locked" in a solitary orbit?
- Tide Locked? - It shouldn't be as a Gas Giant.
- A solitary orbit? - As opposed to what?
- ". . . and a pair of twin gas giants, which are fairly small.
- Does this mean they are both in the same circumstellar orbit, and orbiting each other about their common barycenter ("a pair", "twin")? Or is it just a note about their similarity to one another?
- "The pair of small gas giants are in possession of an unusually high periodicity, as well as being closely linked in their stellar orbits, . . .
- What periodicity? In orbiting each other, or in their independent stellar orbits? If they are co-orbiting each other with high periodicity, then they are in a close orbit about each other by definition; but then it is redundant to say that they are "closely linked" in their stellar orbits, because they are in the same orbit together. - What does ". . . closely linked in their stellar orbits..." mean? Are they intended to be mutual quasi-satellites on independent but nearly identical circum-stellar orbits (i.e. the one has a transitional orbit with slightly higher eccentricity relative to the other, but roughly the same average orbital distance)? Then high periodicity necessarily implies they are close inner system bodies (perhaps "Hot Gas Giants" - is this why they are inaccessible though most of the year?).
- --WHULorigan (talk) 17:31, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note that everything in the Other Data (Era: New Era) section is Non-Canonical, and is taken from RICE Paper SM 2814 by Christopher Griffen.
- - WHULorigan (talk) 07:58, 18 July 2016 (EDT)
- ↑ Martin Dougherty. Compendium 1 (Mongoose Publishing, 2010), 12.