Talk:Principality of Caledon
Revision as of 04:30, 19 May 2024 by Russvenlos (talk | contribs)
Ok, we know that the founders of Caledon are Solomani (why else would they use a Scottish Dialect)
But why would they form the type of government that they did?
Could it be that some of them were part of Middle Ages recreation group?
Perhaps the SCA? (Society for creative anachronism)
Any comments?
- Russvenlos (talk) 03:57, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- The Scots and Irish already have a strong sense of culture, clan, tradition, and history as a people, as evidenced by the continued existence of Highland Culture, Dress, and Traditions and the export of the Tartan as a heraldic device worldwide, even to other cultures and organizations. The continued worldwide phenomenon of Highland and Celtic Games and Festivals that include many of the traditional combat sports and feats of strength and other competitions described in the Caledonian articles suggest that this might merely be a continuation of that long tradition during the Long Night in diverse places where people had to hold on to their identity and what they had during difficult times in a colonial environment (considering that their ancestors were either original settlers from a dead Imperium or later Colonials from a pocket empire of the Long Night era, who had to endure both the Reavers of the period and incursions of Aslan ihatei. The Prinicipality as an interstellar polity may have been set up in -371, but the colonists of Caledon and/or the region were likely there longer than that (perhaps much longer).
- --WHULorigan (talk) 04:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- But the Scots and Irish both have strong antimonarch movements. I would expect them to set up republics. they clearly did not do that here. I know of few pro-monarch groups outside of the SCA (SCA.org) I'm just trying to justify why they would setup this type of government.
- Russvenlos (talk) 00:52, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- But the Scots and Irish both have strong antimonarch movements. I would expect them to set up republics. they clearly did not do that here. I know of few pro-monarch groups outside of the SCA (SCA.org) I'm just trying to justify why they would setup this type of government.
- The fact that modern 21st Century Scots and Irish tend to be anti-monarchistic and republican does not mean that will always be so among all groups and in all places into the distant future. Further, the modern 21st century anti-monarch groups are anti-monarchic in their sentiments largely stemming from roots that have to do with struggles against a monarchy perceived as foreign and imposed upon them by outsiders. The History of Charted Space from the periods of both the First and Second Imperia as well as the Long Night are riddled with local and interstellar monarchies that arose through various means, not to mention the rise of the Third Imperium itself from the Sylean Federation. None of these required an analog to an SCA-type group in order to form. I don't realistically see the SCA as a group with the requisite skills necessary to capably set up and maintain a formal and enduring interstellar government and society. That is why I suggested something of a broader cultural movement as a background for the eventual formation of the polity.
- --WHULorigan (talk) 03:42, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- The fact that modern 21st Century Scots and Irish tend to be anti-monarchistic and republican does not mean that will always be so among all groups and in all places into the distant future. Further, the modern 21st century anti-monarch groups are anti-monarchic in their sentiments largely stemming from roots that have to do with struggles against a monarchy perceived as foreign and imposed upon them by outsiders. The History of Charted Space from the periods of both the First and Second Imperia as well as the Long Night are riddled with local and interstellar monarchies that arose through various means, not to mention the rise of the Third Imperium itself from the Sylean Federation. None of these required an analog to an SCA-type group in order to form. I don't realistically see the SCA as a group with the requisite skills necessary to capably set up and maintain a formal and enduring interstellar government and society. That is why I suggested something of a broader cultural movement as a background for the eventual formation of the polity.
OK, it seemed like an interesting story hook, but if no one like it. I will drop it.
- Russvenlos (talk) 04:30, 19 May 2024 (UTC)