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* [[Triumph class Battle Tender]] | * [[Triumph class Battle Tender]] | ||
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| + | == Size Tables (2019) == | ||
| + | Battle Rider didn't include tonnage sizes or displacements so it's very hard to place these ships since their stats don't fit in with the rest of the setting very well. Many of the ships were featured in other TNE products with conventional stats, but several designs were unique to the two games in this series and authors/creators/fans had to create conventional characteristics for them. | ||
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| + | BOOK EXCERPT: <br> | ||
| + | Size: The size modifier of the craft is based on its total displacement. Consult the following chart and record the appropriate value. If the vessel is equipped with socket extenders, add the notation"E" after the size value.' | ||
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| + | {| class="wikitable sortable" | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | !colspan="6"| BR Size Table (pg. 26) | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ! Tons | ||
| + | ! Upper Bound | ||
| + | ! Size | ||
| + | ! Code | ||
| + | ! BR Size | ||
| + | ! Remarks | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | | Less than 1 [[ton]]s | ||
| + | | N<1.0 ton (0.99 tons) | ||
| + | | Sub-Micro | ||
| + | | SM | ||
| + | | +2 | ||
| + | | Device, microdrone, etc. | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | | 1+ [[ton]]s | ||
| + | | N<10.0 tons (9 tons) | ||
| + | | Micro | ||
| + | | Mc | ||
| + | | +1 | ||
| + | | Very light fighter, smallcraft, etc. | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | | 10+ [[ton]]s | ||
| + | | N<100.0 tons (99 tons) | ||
| + | | Very Small | ||
| + | | VS | ||
| + | | 0 | ||
| + | | Smallcraft, fighter, etc. | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | | 100+ [[ton]]s | ||
| + | | N<1,000.0 tons (999 tons) | ||
| + | | Small | ||
| + | | S | ||
| + | | -1 | ||
| + | | ACS, ship, etc. | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | | 1,000+ [[ton]]s | ||
| + | | N<10,000.0 tons (9,999 tons) | ||
| + | | Medium | ||
| + | | M | ||
| + | | -2 | ||
| + | | ACS to BCS, ship, etc. | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | | 10,000 [[ton]]s | ||
| + | | N<100,000.0 tons (99,999 tons) | ||
| + | | Large | ||
| + | | L | ||
| + | | -3 | ||
| + | | BCS, light to medium ships, etc. | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | | 100,000 [[ton]]s | ||
| + | | N<1,000,000.0 tons (999,999 tons) | ||
| + | | Very Large | ||
| + | | VL | ||
| + | | -4 | ||
| + | | BCS to FCS, light to medium to heavy and superheavy ships, etc. | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | | 1,000,000 [[ton]]s | ||
| + | | No upper bound | ||
| + | | Gigantic | ||
| + | | G | ||
| + | | -5 | ||
| + | | WCS, ultraheavy ship, etc. | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | |} | ||
=== Battle Rider Ships & Classes (2019) === | === Battle Rider Ships & Classes (2019) === | ||
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| CA | | CA | ||
| Heavy Cruiser | | Heavy Cruiser | ||
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| None | | None | ||
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| − | + | === Tender Rider Relationships === | |
Pg. 5 Tenders & Riders <br> | Pg. 5 Tenders & Riders <br> | ||
TENDER and RIDER: | TENDER and RIDER: | ||
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* Cleon carries Admirals | * Cleon carries Admirals | ||
* Maggart carries Manticores | * Maggart carries Manticores | ||
| + | * Triumph carries Gallants | ||
| − | + | === Drones === | |
| − | Pg 14 | + | Pg 14 [[Drone]]s |
| − | + | === Clippers or Modulars with Multiple Roles === | |
* LC Maggart | * LC Maggart | ||
* LT Maggart | * LT Maggart | ||
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* LC Aurora | * LC Aurora | ||
| − | + | === Types in Publication === | |
Pgs. 15-16 | Pgs. 15-16 | ||
| − | * CL Starburst | + | * BRL Manticores |
| − | * | + | * CL Starburst |
| − | * | + | * CP Patrol Cruiser |
| − | * CVM Valor | + | * CR Ashtabula |
| + | * CVM Valor | ||
| + | * DD Fusilier | ||
| + | * DD Lancer | ||
* DD Midu Agashaam | * DD Midu Agashaam | ||
| + | * DE Chrysanthemum | ||
| + | * EC Gazelle | ||
* EC Fiery | * EC Fiery | ||
| − | * LM Aurora | + | * ED Rapier |
| + | * LC Aurora | ||
| + | * LC Maggart | ||
| + | * LM Aurora | ||
| + | * LT Maggart | ||
| + | * Mn Mary Ellen Carter | ||
| + | * SDB Shukugan | ||
* SM Victrix | * SM Victrix | ||
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* TL-12 Drones | * TL-12 Drones | ||
Latest revision as of 12:46, 7 October 2019
Links (2019)[edit]
- EXTERNAL LINK: Proj Rho - Trav battle Riders
- - Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 01:04, 31 July 2019 (EDT)
Notes (2019)[edit]
I've received two replies so far on what ship that is (the larger of the two) on the cover. One confident reply was Gallant class battle rider and one uncertain reply that it was a Nolikian class Battle Rider. Nolikian is listed on the battle rider page, but Gallant was not. There is a Gallant class light cruiser though.
- - DEDtraveller (talk) 14:42, 18 May 2019 (EDT)
David, We have citations for the Nolikian class Battle Rider.
- Where can we learn more about the Gallant class Battle Rider?
- The Gallant light cruiser at the wiki is a fan creation.
- - Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 21:44, 18 May 2019 (EDT)
Just got an email from David Jacques-Watson confirming that it's a Gallant class battle rider. He even sent a sample scan of the counters used in the game and the profile matches what's on the cover. Plus the Triumph class battle tender. The specs are TNE but not in a format that I understand. I think they're simplified for players using Battle Rider as a tabletop game.
Here's what I recognize: TL-15 (both ships) Triumph performance is jump-3 and 2G and can carry four battle riders. Gallant performance is 6G.
If it will help, I can email you the scan of the counter that David sent me.
- - DEDtraveller (talk) 11:04, 19 May 2019 (EDT)
Yes, please.
- - Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 11:21, 19 May 2019 (EDT)
Size Tables (2019)[edit]
Battle Rider didn't include tonnage sizes or displacements so it's very hard to place these ships since their stats don't fit in with the rest of the setting very well. Many of the ships were featured in other TNE products with conventional stats, but several designs were unique to the two games in this series and authors/creators/fans had to create conventional characteristics for them.
BOOK EXCERPT:
Size: The size modifier of the craft is based on its total displacement. Consult the following chart and record the appropriate value. If the vessel is equipped with socket extenders, add the notation"E" after the size value.'
| BR Size Table (pg. 26) | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tons | Upper Bound | Size | Code | BR Size | Remarks |
| Less than 1 tons | N<1.0 ton (0.99 tons) | Sub-Micro | SM | +2 | Device, microdrone, etc. |
| 1+ tons | N<10.0 tons (9 tons) | Micro | Mc | +1 | Very light fighter, smallcraft, etc. |
| 10+ tons | N<100.0 tons (99 tons) | Very Small | VS | 0 | Smallcraft, fighter, etc. |
| 100+ tons | N<1,000.0 tons (999 tons) | Small | S | -1 | ACS, ship, etc. |
| 1,000+ tons | N<10,000.0 tons (9,999 tons) | Medium | M | -2 | ACS to BCS, ship, etc. |
| 10,000 tons | N<100,000.0 tons (99,999 tons) | Large | L | -3 | BCS, light to medium ships, etc. |
| 100,000 tons | N<1,000,000.0 tons (999,999 tons) | Very Large | VL | -4 | BCS to FCS, light to medium to heavy and superheavy ships, etc. |
| 1,000,000 tons | No upper bound | Gigantic | G | -5 | WCS, ultraheavy ship, etc. |
Battle Rider Ships & Classes (2019)[edit]
| Imperial Dynasties (Pg. 3) | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Code | Mission Type | Wiki Code | Remarks | |
| BB | Battleship | BB | None | |
| BR | Battle Rider | BR | None | |
| BRL | Light Battle Rider | BRL | None | |
| BT | Battle Tender | VTB | None | |
| CA | Heavy Cruiser | CH | None | |
| CC | Colonial Cruiser | CC | None | |
| CL | Light Cruiser | CL | None | |
| CP | Patrol Cruiser | CP | None | |
| CR | Raider Cruiser | PR | None | |
| CVM | Missile Corvette | EMC | None | |
| DD | Destroyer | DD | None | |
| DE | Destroyer Escort | DE | None | |
| EC | Close Escort | ECE | None | |
| ED | Escort Destroyer | ED | None | |
| LC | Combatant Clipper | RI | None | |
| LM | Multimission Clipper | RI | None | |
| LT | Clipper Tender | VT | None | |
| MA | Armed Merchant | Q | None | |
| SDB | System Defense Boat | HSDB | None | |
| SM | Multimission Sloop | ES | None | |
Tender Rider Relationships[edit]
Pg. 5 Tenders & Riders
TENDER and RIDER:
- Cleon carries Admirals
- Maggart carries Manticores
- Triumph carries Gallants
Drones[edit]
Pg 14 Drones
Clippers or Modulars with Multiple Roles[edit]
- LC Maggart
- LT Maggart
- LM Aurora
- LC Aurora
Types in Publication[edit]
Pgs. 15-16
- BRL Manticores
- CL Starburst
- CP Patrol Cruiser
- CR Ashtabula
- CVM Valor
- DD Fusilier
- DD Lancer
- DD Midu Agashaam
- DE Chrysanthemum
- EC Gazelle
- EC Fiery
- ED Rapier
- LC Aurora
- LC Maggart
- LM Aurora
- LT Maggart
- Mn Mary Ellen Carter
- SDB Shukugan
- SM Victrix
- TL-12 Drones