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Thomas, feedback:
 
Thomas, feedback:
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Why don't we proceed with two new updates:
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# InfoboxShip2: A gradual update of the older template along very modest lines.
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# InfoboxShip3: A more differentiated update of the template with the ideas you have presented which are quite excellent.
  
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* Aerodynam: Since every rule set refers to this as ''Streamline'', I think that make a better parameter name than the truncated ''Aerodynam''.
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* Architect: In the original this was the Architect fee, part of the cost of creating a ship. Not all ship design system include this as a calculation. I am re-asserting this parameter as the fee (in MCr).
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* Canon: In all the other templates this is a simple Yes/No flag. I'm going to assume this is true here too.
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* Cost:  Pedantically, this should be price, but every system uses ''Cost''. There are three parts to the cost of a ship: Architect fees, price singly, and price in quantity. I've seen several ships trying to put both into this field. Cost will be assumed to be for singly, and add a ''costQuantity'' field. And ''architect'' parameter will hold the Architect fee.
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* Designer: The ''designer'' is a new parameter, holding the name of the person who created the design (if known). e.g. Ronald Klein. The ''ref'' parameter is for book references.
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* Design System: The ''designSystem'' is a new parameter. This holds the name of the design system used for the original design. e.g. Book 2, High Guard, MT, GT: Starships, T5, FF&S1, FF&S2, etc. The different design systems can produce different results.
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* Hpass / Lpass: These are assumed to be Staterooms and Low Berths (respectively). Some designs include ''barracks'' between these two. And small-craft may have ''seats'' (think airplane).
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* Illustration: Like Canon and Blueprint this will be a simple Yes/No flag
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* IOC : I wish the linked page would explain the IOC refers to year of starting operation. This will be only a year. Is there a corresponding term for when the ship leaves service?
 
: - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 21:06, 24 May 2019 (EDT)
 
: - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 21:06, 24 May 2019 (EDT)

Revision as of 01:08, 25 May 2019

Notes (2018)

Ship 1 Stock Template (Alphabetized):

{{InfoboxShip
|name     = 
|alsosee  = 
|architect= TBD
|caption  = 
|cargo    = 
|crew     = 
|cost     = 
|IOC      = TBD
|enlisted = TBD
|footnote = TBD
|g        = 
|hp       = 
|hpass    = 
|image    = Imperial Sunburst-Sun-IISS-Traveller.gif
|jump     = 
|lpass    = 
|marines  = TBD
|model    = TBD
|officers = TBD
|origin   = Third Imperium
|QSP      = TBD
|size     = 
|tdes     = 
|TL       = 
|type     = 
|usp      = TBD
|manufacturer= Various
}}

Experimental Ship 2 Stock Template (Alphabetized w/definitions):

{{InfoboxShip
│Name     =
│agility  = TBD
│armor    = (Armor type in tons)
│bridge   = TBD
│caption  = TBD
│cargo    = (in tons)
│compTL   = TBD
│cost     = TBD MCr
│crew     = TBD
│dateIOC  = (Initial Operational Capacity)
│defense  = (major defensive systems)
│footnote = TBD
│fuel     = TBD
│fuelproc = TBD
│G        = Maneuver / Sublight Drive (Sublight)
│Hp       =
│Hpass    = (HiPass)
│Hullcnfig= [per architect guides] 
│image    = [[file: Imperial Sunburst-sun-IISS-Traveller.gif]]
│jump     = Jump Drive (JumpDriv)
│Lpass    = (LoPass)
│Maneuver = Will replace G in InfoBoxShip2
│Mpass    = (MedPass)
│size     = [in tons]
│smallcrft= TBD
│stealth  = TBD
│streamlne= TBD 
│Tdes     = Type
│TL       = Tech
│type     = Military
│weaponry = Offensive systems.
│manufacturer= TBD
}}

Experimental Ship 2 Stock Template (Alphabetized):

{{InfoboxShip
│Name     = TBD
│agility  = TBD
│armor    = TBD
│bridge   = TBD
│caption  = TBD
│cargo    = TBD
│compTL   = TBD
│cost     = TBD
│crew     = TBD
│dateIOC  = TBD
│defense  = TBD
│footnote = TBD
│fuel     = TBD
│fuelproc = TBD
│G        = TBD
│Hp       = TBD
│Hpass    = TBD
│Hullcnfig= TBD
│image    = [[file: Imperial Sunburst-sun-IISS-Traveller.gif]]
│jump     = TBD
│Lpass    = TBD
│Maneuver = TBD
│Mpass    = TBD
│size     = TBD
│smallcrft= TBD
│stealth  = TBD
│streamlne= TBD 
│Tdes     = Type
│TL       = TBD
│type     = TBD
│weaponry = TBD
│manufacturer= TBD
}}

Edits and additions to the Template (2019)

Maksim, you asked me to add a few things to both the template and the underlying cargo tables. In reading through the existing template I have found a number of changes that could be made. I'm putting the list here for discussion:

  • Aerodynam: Since every rule set refers to this as Streamline, I think that make a better parameter name than the truncated Aerodynam.
  • Architect: In the original this was the Architect fee, part of the cost of creating a ship. Not all ship design system include this as a calculation. I am re-asserting this parameter as the fee (in MCr).
  • Canon: In all the other templates this is a simple Yes/No flag. I'm going to assume this is true here too.
  • Cost: Pedantically, this should be price, but every system uses Cost. There are three parts to the cost of a ship: Architect fees, price singly, and price in quantity. I've seen several ships trying to put both into this field. Cost will be assumed to be for singly, and add a costQuantity field. And architect parameter will hold the Architect fee.
  • Designer: The designer is a new parameter, holding the name of the person who created the design (if known). e.g. Ronald Klein. The ref parameter is for book references.
  • Design System: The designSystem is a new parameter. This holds the name of the design system used for the original design. e.g. Book 2, High Guard, MT, GT: Starships, T5, FF&S1, FF&S2, etc. The different design systems can produce different results.
  • Hpass / Lpass: These are assumed to be Staterooms and Low Berths (respectively). Some designs include barracks between these two. And small-craft may have seats (think airplane).
  • Illustration: Like Canon and Blueprint this will be a simple Yes/No flag
  • IOC : I wish the linked page would explain the IOC refers to year of starting operation. This will be only a year. Is there a corresponding term for when the ship leaves service?
- Tjoneslo (talk) 23:23, 23 May 2019 (EDT)

Thank you for all of your hard work and brainstorming.

  • I will respond back later.
  • Great ideas!
- Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 13:51, 24 May 2019 (EDT)

Thomas, feedback: Why don't we proceed with two new updates:

  1. InfoboxShip2: A gradual update of the older template along very modest lines.
  2. InfoboxShip3: A more differentiated update of the template with the ideas you have presented which are quite excellent.


  • Aerodynam: Since every rule set refers to this as Streamline, I think that make a better parameter name than the truncated Aerodynam.
  • Architect: In the original this was the Architect fee, part of the cost of creating a ship. Not all ship design system include this as a calculation. I am re-asserting this parameter as the fee (in MCr).
  • Canon: In all the other templates this is a simple Yes/No flag. I'm going to assume this is true here too.
  • Cost: Pedantically, this should be price, but every system uses Cost. There are three parts to the cost of a ship: Architect fees, price singly, and price in quantity. I've seen several ships trying to put both into this field. Cost will be assumed to be for singly, and add a costQuantity field. And architect parameter will hold the Architect fee.
  • Designer: The designer is a new parameter, holding the name of the person who created the design (if known). e.g. Ronald Klein. The ref parameter is for book references.
  • Design System: The designSystem is a new parameter. This holds the name of the design system used for the original design. e.g. Book 2, High Guard, MT, GT: Starships, T5, FF&S1, FF&S2, etc. The different design systems can produce different results.
  • Hpass / Lpass: These are assumed to be Staterooms and Low Berths (respectively). Some designs include barracks between these two. And small-craft may have seats (think airplane).
  • Illustration: Like Canon and Blueprint this will be a simple Yes/No flag
  • IOC : I wish the linked page would explain the IOC refers to year of starting operation. This will be only a year. Is there a corresponding term for when the ship leaves service?
- Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 21:06, 24 May 2019 (EDT)