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* --[[User:WHULorigan|WHULorigan]] ([[User talk:WHULorigan|talk]]) 10:59, 30 March 2016 (EDT) | * --[[User:WHULorigan|WHULorigan]] ([[User talk:WHULorigan|talk]]) 10:59, 30 March 2016 (EDT) | ||
== Notes (2026) == | == Notes (2026) == | ||
| − | I find the continued mixing of the Commonwealth (RAF) and Continental (USAF) Air Force Organizational Structure at the Wing/Group level very confusing to try and rectify with the names of the Officer Rank Structure at the associated level. Further, various Traveller Publications have now used both versions of the organizational structure, and mid-grade officer ranks that reflect both the correct and a corrupted ("flip-flopped") form of the Commonwealth structure for the associated officer names at those levels. The rank ''Group-Captain'' should always be senior to ''Wing-Commander'' in order to remain synchronized with rank-names in other space / naval / nautical services. Since all versions of Traveller from the beginning have used the Commonwealth Officer Rank (RAF) system (or something closely based on it) and the current owner (Mongoose) is a British company, I am going to treat the instances of the Continental / USAF order of Unit Organization as errata items and go with the Commonwealth / RAF order. This is the opposite of the order found in ''[[GURPS Traveller: Star Mercs]]'' and ''[[MegaTraveller]]: [[COACC]]''. | + | I find the continued mixing of the Commonwealth (RAF) and Continental (USAF) Air Force Organizational Structure at the Wing/Group level very confusing to try and rectify with the names of the Officer Rank Structure at the associated level. Further, various ''Traveller'' Publications have now used both versions of the organizational structure, and mid-grade officer ranks that reflect both the correct and a corrupted ("flip-flopped") form of the Commonwealth structure for the associated officer names at those levels. The rank ''Group-Captain'' should always be senior to ''Wing-Commander'' in order to remain synchronized with rank-names in other space / naval / nautical services. Since all versions of ''Traveller'' from the beginning have used the Commonwealth Officer Rank (RAF) system (or something closely based on it) and the current owner (Mongoose) is a British company, I am going to treat the instances of the Continental / USAF order of Unit Organization as errata items and go with the Commonwealth / RAF order. This is the opposite of the order found in ''[[GURPS Traveller: Star Mercs]]'' and ''[[MegaTraveller]]: [[COACC]]''. |
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! | ! | ||
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| − | + | | | |
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| − | | Air Force ( | + | | Air Force (Named) |
| − | | Air Force ( | + | | Air Force (Named) |
! | ! | ||
| − | | Air Chief Marshal | + | | Air Chief Marshal |
! -- | ! -- | ||
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| − | | Air Corps | + | | Air Force (Numbered)<br>''(Air Corps)'' |
| − | | Air Corps | + | | Air Force (Numbered)<br>''(Air Corps)'' |
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| Air Marshal | | Air Marshal | ||
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| ''{Air Wing}'' | | ''{Air Wing}'' | ||
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| − | | Air Commodore | + | | Air Commodore<ref><small>''Note that today, due to current size of the RAF, an Air Group is often commanded by an '''Air Vice Marshall''', and an '''Air Commodore''' is usually an RAF Base Commander''.</small></ref> |
| − | | '''Group Captain'''<br>'' | + | | '''Group Captain''' ''(Senior)'' /<br> Air Commodore<ref><small>''Note that today, due to current size of the RAF, an Air Group is often commanded by an '''Air Vice Marshall''', and an '''Air Commodore''' is usually an RAF Base Commander''.</small></ref> |
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| '''Air Group''' <br>''(multiple squadrons)'' | | '''Air Group''' <br>''(multiple squadrons)'' | ||
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| '''Wing Commander''' | | '''Wing Commander''' | ||
| − | | '''Group Captain''' | + | | '''Wing Commander''' / '''Group Captain''' |
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| Air Squadron | | Air Squadron | ||
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| Squadron Leader | | Squadron Leader | ||
| − | | '''Wing Commander''' | + | | Squadron Leader / '''Wing Commander''' |
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| Flight | | Flight | ||
Latest revision as of 16:33, 18 February 2026
Notes (2016)[edit]
I brought the COACC Rank structure more in line with that detailed in MT:COACC and GT:Star Mercs.
- --WHULorigan (talk) 10:59, 30 March 2016 (EDT)
Notes (2026)[edit]
I find the continued mixing of the Commonwealth (RAF) and Continental (USAF) Air Force Organizational Structure at the Wing/Group level very confusing to try and rectify with the names of the Officer Rank Structure at the associated level. Further, various Traveller Publications have now used both versions of the organizational structure, and mid-grade officer ranks that reflect both the correct and a corrupted ("flip-flopped") form of the Commonwealth structure for the associated officer names at those levels. The rank Group-Captain should always be senior to Wing-Commander in order to remain synchronized with rank-names in other space / naval / nautical services. Since all versions of Traveller from the beginning have used the Commonwealth Officer Rank (RAF) system (or something closely based on it) and the current owner (Mongoose) is a British company, I am going to treat the instances of the Continental / USAF order of Unit Organization as errata items and go with the Commonwealth / RAF order. This is the opposite of the order found in GURPS Traveller: Star Mercs and MegaTraveller: COACC.
| Commonwealth Air Forces Rank Grades |
|---|
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| Commissioned Officers |
| O11 » Marshal of the Air Force |
| O10 » Air Chief Marshal |
| O9 » Air Marshal |
| O8 » Air Vice-Marshal |
| O7 » Air Commodore |
| O6 » Group Captain |
| O5 » Wing Commander |
| O4 » Squadron Leader |
| O3 » Flight Lieutenant |
| O2 » Flying Officer |
| O1 » Pilot Officer |
| O0 » Officer Cadet (Flight Cadet) |
| Unit Name | Unit Name | Unit Leader's Rank (Commonwealth) |
Unit Leader's Rank (Commonwealth) | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Commonwealth / RAF | Continental / USAF | Ground Unit | Flying Unit | |
| Air Force (Named) | Air Force (Named) | Air Chief Marshal | -- | |
| Air Force (Numbered) (Air Corps) |
Air Force (Numbered) (Air Corps) |
Air Marshal | -- | |
| Air Division | Air Division | Air Vice-Marshal | -- | |
| Air Group (several wings) |
{Air Wing} | Air Commodore[1] | Group Captain (Senior) / Air Commodore[2] | |
| Air Group (multiple squadrons) |
{Air Wing} | Group Captain | Group Captain (Senior) | |
| Air Wing | {Air Group} | Wing Commander | Wing Commander / Group Captain | |
| Air Squadron | Air Squadron | Squadron Leader | Squadron Leader / Wing Commander | |
| Flight | Flight | Flight Lieutenant | Flight Lieutenant / Squadron Leader | |
- --WHULorigan (talk) 03:30, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
- ↑ Note that today, due to current size of the RAF, an Air Group is often commanded by an Air Vice Marshall, and an Air Commodore is usually an RAF Base Commander.
- ↑ Note that today, due to current size of the RAF, an Air Group is often commanded by an Air Vice Marshall, and an Air Commodore is usually an RAF Base Commander.