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* In ''Traveller'', a "Ship" is defined as a Jump-capable vessel (exclusively). | * In ''Traveller'', a "Ship" is defined as a Jump-capable vessel (exclusively). | ||
| − | * In ''History'', a "Ship" is defined (explicitly) as a vessel with three or more masts. | + | * In ''History'', a "[[Wikipedia: Full-rigged_ship|Ship]]" is defined (explicitly) as a vessel with three or more masts. |
Historically, a "[[Sloop]]" was defined two separate ways, depending upon time period: | Historically, a "[[Sloop]]" was defined two separate ways, depending upon time period: | ||
# The earlier definition (17th-18th Century), the "[[Wikipedia: Sloop-of-War|Sloop-of-War]]" effectively was a vessel larger than a Gunboat but smaller than or similar to a Corvette, normally carrying only two masts (a.k.a. "Brig-Sloops"), but a few had three masts - (a.k.a. "Ship-Sloops", thus overlapping the very low end of "[[Wikipedia: Post-Ship|Post-Ship]]s" and "[[Wikipedia: Corvette|Corvette]]s"). | # The earlier definition (17th-18th Century), the "[[Wikipedia: Sloop-of-War|Sloop-of-War]]" effectively was a vessel larger than a Gunboat but smaller than or similar to a Corvette, normally carrying only two masts (a.k.a. "Brig-Sloops"), but a few had three masts - (a.k.a. "Ship-Sloops", thus overlapping the very low end of "[[Wikipedia: Post-Ship|Post-Ship]]s" and "[[Wikipedia: Corvette|Corvette]]s"). | ||
| − | # The later definition (19th Century) of a generic "[[Wikipedia: Sloop|Sloop]]" was a small fast vessel with large sail area but only a single mast. | + | # The later definition (19th Century) of a generic "[[Wikipedia: Sloop|Sloop]]" was a small fast vessel with large sail area but only a single mast. This latter type of ''Sloop'' was often considered to be a variant type of ''Cutter''. |
Preserving the historical precedent, a Sloop is best defined as a vessel that is non-Jump capable, but small and reasonably fast. Since a few historical Sloops did have three masts, Jump-capable Sloops should be permissible, but noted as the exception and denoted specifically as such (i.e. "Jump-Sloops"). | Preserving the historical precedent, a Sloop is best defined as a vessel that is non-Jump capable, but small and reasonably fast. Since a few historical Sloops did have three masts, Jump-capable Sloops should be permissible, but noted as the exception and denoted specifically as such (i.e. "Jump-Sloops"). | ||
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| + | In general, ancient single-masted vessels would best be rendered/reinterpreted as larger ''Smallcraft'', and ancient double-masted vessels would best be rendered/reinterpreted as ''Bigcraft''. | ||
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| + | See also: [[Wikipedia: Sailing ship]] | ||
:--[[User:WHULorigan|WHULorigan]] ([[User talk:WHULorigan|talk]]) 12:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC) | :--[[User:WHULorigan|WHULorigan]] ([[User talk:WHULorigan|talk]]) 12:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC) | ||
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Latest revision as of 18:56, 30 April 2024
Regarding the use of maritime terminology for Traveller vessels:
- In Traveller, a "Ship" is defined as a Jump-capable vessel (exclusively).
- In History, a "Ship" is defined (explicitly) as a vessel with three or more masts.
Historically, a "Sloop" was defined two separate ways, depending upon time period:
- The earlier definition (17th-18th Century), the "Sloop-of-War" effectively was a vessel larger than a Gunboat but smaller than or similar to a Corvette, normally carrying only two masts (a.k.a. "Brig-Sloops"), but a few had three masts - (a.k.a. "Ship-Sloops", thus overlapping the very low end of "Post-Ships" and "Corvettes").
- The later definition (19th Century) of a generic "Sloop" was a small fast vessel with large sail area but only a single mast. This latter type of Sloop was often considered to be a variant type of Cutter.
Preserving the historical precedent, a Sloop is best defined as a vessel that is non-Jump capable, but small and reasonably fast. Since a few historical Sloops did have three masts, Jump-capable Sloops should be permissible, but noted as the exception and denoted specifically as such (i.e. "Jump-Sloops").
In general, ancient single-masted vessels would best be rendered/reinterpreted as larger Smallcraft, and ancient double-masted vessels would best be rendered/reinterpreted as Bigcraft.
See also: Wikipedia: Sailing ship
- --WHULorigan (talk) 12:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC)