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You know, we really should have a message board, or message page or something. In the meantime I guess we'll just keep cluttering up your talk page. I guess that's what it's for. Seanr451 19:15, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

We can use the talk for the main page, the community portal, or its talk or a message board, but people will need to watch these pages. Dcorrin 19:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Daily Messages

How does this look? Seanr451 23:47, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

That looks good. I would have liked the Space art, but we need permission. Dcorrin 12:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
I thought of an idea to change to Main Page. take a look. I just changed the headers to erase the table of contents. Let me know what you think. I'll keep trying to contact the author of the space pic to see if we can get permission to post it. Seanr451 19:15, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
This is good, the fonts aren't as large on the titles, and you can't edit the individual sections but it looks better without the index. Dcorrin 19:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Why?

How is it helpful to have this information on a Wiki when it's all available already on dozens of websites around the net? - Seanr451

I have the knowledge, but not as much time. I have seen a lot of the web sites out there, and while a lot of them are quite detailed, I don't want to duplicate the level of detail in say the Traveller Atlas. The graphical bibliography has perhaps a bit too little detail. I like the way that wiki's are inter-linked, and I actually got motivated due to two things:
  1. Jimmy Simpson's Library data page, where he laments the fact that there is no wiki and
  2. I always envisioned giving my characters a computer, and telling them to research the next adventure, rather than simply handing them the pertinent library data.
Dcorrin

Library Data

In a sense there are two wikis here. I don't see a problem with this for a couple of reasons.

  • They have been effectively divided. They can browse the wiki for info on the game itself. Or they can click on the ships library link and just search library data entries that are written from an "in game" point of view.
  • I have not entered portions of the entries that said restricted info or GM only. It looks like we’ll be creating a GM’s secrets Category.
  • I agree the library is better when written from an "in game" point of view. It seems more interesting that way, helps maintain the atmosphere, and is just more fun, but... the people involved know they're playing a game. So the occasional "out of game" point of view article they might come across shouldn't be a problem. Seanr451 16:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Note to self: Finished checking edits to June 16th (End)

Where do we stop?

At the Classic Traveller material? Should I add MegaTraveller stuff too? What about GURPS Traveller material? Or I could just add the GT info that is prior to 1120 and doesn't contradict the CT stuff. Seanr451 13:04, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Don't Stop. Well for copyright purposes we don't want huge sections on anything, people should be able to find enough, but not a replacement for any supplement (other than library data), particularly Alien Races. I have almost everything, but not some of the most recent GURPS stuff.
We need to mark the version of the game, so that an article on the Virus is known to be from the alternate (TNE) future, and not applicable to GURPS timeline. (Some more details on this on the timeline pages too). Some things (for example the Ancient<->Droyne secret - GURPS covers this) have alternate GM explanations too. Dcorrin 14:37, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Do we have copyright permission to add the "Forbidden Canon", i.e. all of the Digest Publication material? Or at least as much as would be fair?
We don't have permission to copy library data in toto, however fair use should cover most extracts, I can't recall any DGP supplement that is more than a few percent library data. Dcorrin 16:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

GM's Secrets

Ok, so my new thought is to have a category entitled GM's Secrets. Then all of the pages with GM secret info can be linked that way. We'll have to decide where to place the link to it though. I don't think that including it in the Ships Library would be a good idea. More for atmosphere than for any other reason. The truth is that most GM's Secrets are well known to most Traveller players. Seanr451 19:15, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

A gm information link, perhaps put after the non-canon section would be good. As you said most players really know the information, and for a gm to find the parts of articles that had GM info without a direct link would be difficult. I beleive that we just need to put the "secret" stuff in a location that casual broswing will not reveal it so tagging the articles with a (GM) at the end, organizing them in their own category is good. Dcorrin 16:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Colours

See Colours

Data Dump or mass print.

Dan, I was on my user-talk and the idea of either a mass-print or data dump into a file for easier printing (and subsequent editing) came up. Is there a way (short of cut and paste each page) to get the data?

Thanks, Steve (Sstefan)

There is an export of the database, however you loose all the formatting. For scanning through say a spell cheker this might work though. Saving the following link current database will give you an XML version of the entire site (>1Mb) each page is delimited by <page>...</page> and the body is in a <text> tag. Dcorrin 21:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


Can't Spell

Be thankful this is Traveller and not D&D; there you would really be in trouble if you can't "spell". ... and if I haven't mentioned this before, thanks a bunch for setting this wiki up. I sure enjoy re-reading some of these entries.

Need Help

I've fixed the Template:NavigationBox and the Emperor's one. You are correct, the {{#if:}} does not work. Also the templates in the styles don't work either, so I can't get the color tag for the title to work properly. Is it important enough to bring up to the Wikia tech support people? Tjoneslo 05:22, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Thomas, Yes I think we should send a message, the Special:Version shows this wiki as running 1.7alpha (same as wikipedia), and I was certain I saw an announcement about 1.6 a while back (which I believe is the release required for #if. Some of the other templates could really use #if constructs too). If you contact them, you could also ask about why the statistics page does not show any page count info. Dcorrin 13:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Say Hi to the Admin

I have not seen you about in a while and wanted to make sure I hadn't scared you off for some reason or another. Tjoneslo 19:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Nope, just real life and Work intruding on my free time. Dcorrin 02:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

HIWG - Gushemege

  • I have the HIWG of Gushemege on my disc and much more. I could cut'n'paste everything about Rurevayn in TNE, that was written by me, and mark them as (uncanon). The question is what to do with the other MT & TNE documents ? Does someone have still have contact to David, Leighton or Clay, to ask for a permission to republish their writings under CC or GFDL ? What about derived work based on GEnie. The 3rd survey of TNE Gushemege is different to the 2nd survey from GEnie, as it was collapsed and edited by hand to match the storry. --Kraehe 16:45, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
I have gotten in contact with Clay Bush. He said "a firm no". Apparently he sold his rights to Marc. I've not tracked down anyone else at this point. If you put in your material use "Usdiki (world)". We can use internal setup to mark the history of the world in differenet milieus, location, etc. Tjoneslo 17:38, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Our first real spam!

Can you please delete the page "Talk: Rules/", nothing I like more than PrOn Spam. Tjoneslo 21:50, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Date organization

I've created a new page Date organization with my idea about how the dates (years) should be oraganized. It means we get rid of the Category: Dates and Category: History, the latter replaced with Category:Events. Feedback required. Tjoneslo 20:56, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

This Looks good, though you should probably update the date page to reflect the same periods. I like the Events category. This might help with eventually presenting a date specific access to the wiki data. Dcorrin 18:48, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
I found some circa dates, and some that list about, most notably in the article on Psionics. How should we represent these? The wikipedia seems to cover this with their century pages. Dcorrin 13:45, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
This gets back to the Template: Year nav that I borrowed from Wikipedia. If we set up decade (1110s, 1120s , etc) and century (10th, 11th, etc) pages, we should probably think about fixing this template to match. Tjoneslo 17:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Site makeover

Hi there! I've been a long-time Traveller enthusiast, having started playing back in the black book era, some time in the mid-'70s if my memory serves me correctly. I'm currently an admin on Memory Alpha where I do a lot of work formatting, tweaking CSS and JS, creating templates, etc. I was wondering if you'd be interested in me creating a new, customized look and feel for this wiki. I could see something using a black background with white text and red headers, like the black books used. I'd like to do a new logo and favicon as well. Thoughts? -- Renegade54 15:16, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Yay! A graphic artist. Please come help, we are so lost and confused as to making things look good. Tjoneslo 16:09, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
By all means. I have enough trouble to get templates the way I would like them, never mind messing with the style sheets. Dcorrin 13:50, 9 March 2007 (UTC)