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== Links (2019) ==
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# EXTERNAL LINK: [https://www.facebook.com/groups/travellerrpg/permalink/2445050498946444/ What terms do non-human sophonts use for "humane" and "humanity?" Should that be in light of the mortal "condition" or a "sophont condition?"]
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# EXTERNAL LINK: [https://www.facebook.com/maximilliano.serna/posts/10217652255911632 The Fermi Paradox asks why we haven't found any evidence of aliens. Here are 13 potential answers to that question.] 
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: - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 20:02, 6 October 2019 (EDT)
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== Links (2018) ==
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# EXTERNAL LINK: [https://www.facebook.com/maximilliano.serna/posts/10208689567090013 How to design an alien mind?]
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# EXTERNAL LINK: [http://www.republicofnewhome.org/oldlair/games/traveller/worlds/explore.html SOPHONT LIST Dragoness Eclectic]
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: - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 19:53, 7 July 2018 (EDT)
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== Links (2017) ==
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# External Link: [http://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2016/11/quick-how-might-the-alien-spacecraft-work/  Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work?]
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: - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 20:07, 16 November 2017 (EST)
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== Notes (2016) ==
 
== Notes (2016) ==
 
'''MWM''' makes a clear distinction among the following terms (at least in [[T5]]):  
 
'''MWM''' makes a clear distinction among the following terms (at least in [[T5]]):  
 
* A '''''[[Sentient]]''''' <small>(= "Sensing")</small> is a life form that is self aware <small>(e.g. an animal)</small>.   
 
* A '''''[[Sentient]]''''' <small>(= "Sensing")</small> is a life form that is self aware <small>(e.g. an animal)</small>.   
* A '''''[[Sapient]]''''' is an ''intelligent'' life form.   
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* A '''''[[Sapient]]''''' <small>(= "wise cognizance")</small> is an ''intelligent'' life form.   
* A '''''[[Sophont]]''''' is an ''intelligent'' life form that has an interstellar presence.   
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* A '''''[[Sophont]]''''' <small>(= sophonce or higher intelligence)</small> is an ''intelligent'' life form that has an interstellar presence.   
  
 
In other words, all ''[[Sapient|Sapients]]''/''[[Sophont|Sophonts]]'' are also ''[[Sentient]]'' by definition.   
 
In other words, all ''[[Sapient|Sapients]]''/''[[Sophont|Sophonts]]'' are also ''[[Sentient]]'' by definition.   
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=== Life Development Stages ===
 
=== Life Development Stages ===
''STAGES:'' Non-Life → [[Proto-Life]] → [[Creature]] → [[Proto-Sophont]] → [[Sophont]] → [[Ascendant]] → [[Transcendant]]
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''STAGES:'' Non-Life → [[Proto-Life]] → [[Creature]] → [[Proto-Sophont]] → [[Sophont]] → [[Ascendant]] → [[Transcendent]] → [[Singularity]]
  
# Non-Life  
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# Non-Life ([[A-life]])
 
# [[Proto-Life]] (transitory stage) TL-Neg
 
# [[Proto-Life]] (transitory stage) TL-Neg
 
# [[Creature]] TL-Neg (pre-technological lifeforms)
 
# [[Creature]] TL-Neg (pre-technological lifeforms)
 
# [[Proto-Sophont]] (transitory stage) TL-0
 
# [[Proto-Sophont]] (transitory stage) TL-0
 
# [[Sophont]] TL 1-27
 
# [[Sophont]] TL 1-27
# [[Ascendant]] (transitory stage) TL 28-33
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# [[Ascendant]] (transitory stage) TL 28-30
# [[Transcendant]] TL-24+ (post-technological beings)
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# [[Transcendent]] TL-31-33 (post-technological beings)
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# [[Singularity]]

Latest revision as of 19:52, 10 October 2019

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Links (2019)[edit]

  1. EXTERNAL LINK: What terms do non-human sophonts use for "humane" and "humanity?" Should that be in light of the mortal "condition" or a "sophont condition?"
  2. EXTERNAL LINK: The Fermi Paradox asks why we haven't found any evidence of aliens. Here are 13 potential answers to that question.
- Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 20:02, 6 October 2019 (EDT)

Links (2018)[edit]

  1. EXTERNAL LINK: How to design an alien mind?
  2. EXTERNAL LINK: SOPHONT LIST Dragoness Eclectic
- Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 19:53, 7 July 2018 (EDT)

Links (2017)[edit]

  1. External Link: Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work?
- Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 20:07, 16 November 2017 (EST)

Notes (2016)[edit]

MWM makes a clear distinction among the following terms (at least in T5):

  • A Sentient (= "Sensing") is a life form that is self aware (e.g. an animal).
  • A Sapient (= "wise cognizance") is an intelligent life form.
  • A Sophont (= sophonce or higher intelligence) is an intelligent life form that has an interstellar presence.

In other words, all Sapients/Sophonts are also Sentient by definition. But while all Sophonts are also Sapients, not all Sapients are Sophonts.

So a TL-0 or TL-1 society of NILs on a world would be considered a Sapient species, but not Sophonts. If that same species eventually developed Jump Drive or a small STL/NAFAL ship polity (or had become members of a starfaring society and had spread out among the stars by that agency), then they would be considered Sophonts.


Life Development Stages[edit]

STAGES: Non-Life → Proto-LifeCreatureProto-SophontSophontAscendantTranscendentSingularity

  1. Non-Life (A-life)
  2. Proto-Life (transitory stage) TL-Neg
  3. Creature TL-Neg (pre-technological lifeforms)
  4. Proto-Sophont (transitory stage) TL-0
  5. Sophont TL 1-27
  6. Ascendant (transitory stage) TL 28-30
  7. Transcendent TL-31-33 (post-technological beings)
  8. Singularity