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+ | == Links (2019) == | ||
+ | # EXTERNAL LINK: [https://www.facebook.com/groups/travellerrpg/permalink/2445050498946444/ What terms do non-human sophonts use for "humane" and "humanity?" Should that be in light of the mortal "condition" or a "sophont condition?"] | ||
+ | # EXTERNAL LINK: [https://www.facebook.com/maximilliano.serna/posts/10217652255911632 The Fermi Paradox asks why we haven't found any evidence of aliens. Here are 13 potential answers to that question.] | ||
+ | : - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 20:02, 6 October 2019 (EDT) | ||
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+ | == Links (2018) == | ||
+ | # EXTERNAL LINK: [https://www.facebook.com/maximilliano.serna/posts/10208689567090013 How to design an alien mind?] | ||
+ | # EXTERNAL LINK: [http://www.republicofnewhome.org/oldlair/games/traveller/worlds/explore.html SOPHONT LIST Dragoness Eclectic] | ||
+ | : - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 19:53, 7 July 2018 (EDT) | ||
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+ | == Links (2017) == | ||
+ | # External Link: [http://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2016/11/quick-how-might-the-alien-spacecraft-work/ Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work?] | ||
+ | : - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 20:07, 16 November 2017 (EST) | ||
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+ | == Notes (2016) == | ||
'''MWM''' makes a clear distinction among the following terms (at least in [[T5]]): | '''MWM''' makes a clear distinction among the following terms (at least in [[T5]]): | ||
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* A '''''[[Sentient]]''''' <small>(= "Sensing")</small> is a life form that is self aware <small>(e.g. an animal)</small>. | * A '''''[[Sentient]]''''' <small>(= "Sensing")</small> is a life form that is self aware <small>(e.g. an animal)</small>. | ||
− | * A '''''[[Sapient]]''''' is an ''intelligent'' life form. | + | * A '''''[[Sapient]]''''' <small>(= "wise cognizance")</small> is an ''intelligent'' life form. |
− | * A '''''[[Sophont]]''''' is an ''intelligent'' life form that has an interstellar presence. | + | * A '''''[[Sophont]]''''' <small>(= sophonce or higher intelligence)</small> is an ''intelligent'' life form that has an interstellar presence. |
In other words, all ''[[Sapient|Sapients]]''/''[[Sophont|Sophonts]]'' are also ''[[Sentient]]'' by definition. | In other words, all ''[[Sapient|Sapients]]''/''[[Sophont|Sophonts]]'' are also ''[[Sentient]]'' by definition. | ||
But while all ''[[Sophont|Sophonts]]'' are also ''[[Sapient|Sapients]]'', not all ''[[Sapient|Sapients]]'' are ''[[Sophont|Sophonts]]''. | But while all ''[[Sophont|Sophonts]]'' are also ''[[Sapient|Sapients]]'', not all ''[[Sapient|Sapients]]'' are ''[[Sophont|Sophonts]]''. | ||
− | So a | + | So a TL-0 or TL-1 society of [[NIL]]s on a world would be considered a ''[[Sapient]]'' species, but not ''[[Sophont|Sophonts]]''. |
If that same species eventually developed Jump Drive or a small STL/[[NAFAL]] ship polity (or had become members of a starfaring society and had spread out among the stars by that agency), then they would be considered ''[[Sophont|Sophonts]]''. | If that same species eventually developed Jump Drive or a small STL/[[NAFAL]] ship polity (or had become members of a starfaring society and had spread out among the stars by that agency), then they would be considered ''[[Sophont|Sophonts]]''. | ||
:* --[[User:WHULorigan|WHULorigan]] ([[User talk:WHULorigan|talk]]) 11:54, 9 July 2016 (EDT) | :* --[[User:WHULorigan|WHULorigan]] ([[User talk:WHULorigan|talk]]) 11:54, 9 July 2016 (EDT) | ||
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+ | === Life Development Stages === | ||
+ | ''STAGES:'' Non-Life → [[Proto-Life]] → [[Creature]] → [[Proto-Sophont]] → [[Sophont]] → [[Ascendant]] → [[Transcendent]] → [[Singularity]] | ||
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+ | # Non-Life ([[A-life]]) | ||
+ | # [[Proto-Life]] (transitory stage) TL-Neg | ||
+ | # [[Creature]] TL-Neg (pre-technological lifeforms) | ||
+ | # [[Proto-Sophont]] (transitory stage) TL-0 | ||
+ | # [[Sophont]] TL 1-27 | ||
+ | # [[Ascendant]] (transitory stage) TL 28-30 | ||
+ | # [[Transcendent]] TL-31-33 (post-technological beings) | ||
+ | # [[Singularity]] |
Latest revision as of 19:52, 10 October 2019
Links (2019)[edit]
- EXTERNAL LINK: What terms do non-human sophonts use for "humane" and "humanity?" Should that be in light of the mortal "condition" or a "sophont condition?"
- EXTERNAL LINK: The Fermi Paradox asks why we haven't found any evidence of aliens. Here are 13 potential answers to that question.
- - Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 20:02, 6 October 2019 (EDT)
Links (2018)[edit]
- EXTERNAL LINK: How to design an alien mind?
- EXTERNAL LINK: SOPHONT LIST Dragoness Eclectic
- - Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 19:53, 7 July 2018 (EDT)
Links (2017)[edit]
- External Link: Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work?
- - Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 20:07, 16 November 2017 (EST)
Notes (2016)[edit]
MWM makes a clear distinction among the following terms (at least in T5):
- A Sentient (= "Sensing") is a life form that is self aware (e.g. an animal).
- A Sapient (= "wise cognizance") is an intelligent life form.
- A Sophont (= sophonce or higher intelligence) is an intelligent life form that has an interstellar presence.
In other words, all Sapients/Sophonts are also Sentient by definition. But while all Sophonts are also Sapients, not all Sapients are Sophonts.
So a TL-0 or TL-1 society of NILs on a world would be considered a Sapient species, but not Sophonts. If that same species eventually developed Jump Drive or a small STL/NAFAL ship polity (or had become members of a starfaring society and had spread out among the stars by that agency), then they would be considered Sophonts.
- --WHULorigan (talk) 11:54, 9 July 2016 (EDT)
Life Development Stages[edit]
STAGES: Non-Life → Proto-Life → Creature → Proto-Sophont → Sophont → Ascendant → Transcendent → Singularity
- Non-Life (A-life)
- Proto-Life (transitory stage) TL-Neg
- Creature TL-Neg (pre-technological lifeforms)
- Proto-Sophont (transitory stage) TL-0
- Sophont TL 1-27
- Ascendant (transitory stage) TL 28-30
- Transcendent TL-31-33 (post-technological beings)
- Singularity