Forum:SophontData infobox update

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{{{name}}}
Base Information
Classification {{{type}}}
Status {{{status}}}
Terrain {{{terrain}}}
Locomotion {{{locomotion}}}
Size {{{size}}}
Weight {{{weight}}}
Culture
Communications {{{language}}}
Social Structure {{{government}}}
Technology Epoch {{{epoch}}}
Psi Potential {{{psi}}}
Homeworld
Homeworld {{{home}}}
UWP {{{uwp}}}
Primary Star {{{primary}}}
Multi-world {{{multi}}}
Extinct {{{extinct}}}
Source
Reference {{{ref}}}
Canon {{{canon}}}
{{{footnote}}}

Maksim and I have been kicking around a few ideas to update the Template:SophontData with more relevant information and make it more generally useful. In addition to the template update, this would capture this information in the underlying Special:CargoTables/Sophonts cargo table.

The Base Information section has been expanded from the Template:Animal simple.

The Details section has been expanded from several notes, and the discussion from earlier.

The Homeworld section has been expanded based upon several notes about the home world of the races and details. The plan in the UWP parameter will have the same pop-up functionality that happens in the Template:UWP currently. So people can see what the UWP values are.

The values for these new fields (where they have a defined list) would be:

Status
Major Race
Minor Human Race
Minor Race
Uplift Race
<X> Chimera
<X> Ethnic Group
Terrain (This is from the T5 rules)
Clear
Desert
Exotic (include note)
Forest
Mountains
Ocean
Ocean Depths
Rough
Waterways
Wetlands
Locomotion (This is from the T5 Rules)
Amphibian
Aquatic
Dives
Drifts
Exotic (include note)
Flyer
Flyphib
Static
Swimmer
Triphibian
Walker
Government
None
Autocracy
Balkanization
Corporation
Democracy
Oligarchy
Republic
Technocracy
Epoch (this is from the T5 rules)
  • TL-0 Found Tools
  • TL:1-3 Tool Making
  • TL:4-6 Mass Production
  • TL:7-9 Processors
  • TL:10-12 Gravitics
  • TL:13-15 Biologics
  • TL:16-18 Artificials
  • TL:19-21 Matter Transport
  • TL:22-24 Transformations
  • TL:25-27 Psionics
  • TL:29-30 Stellar
  • TL:31-33 Pocket Universe
  • TL-34+ Signularity

Outstanding questions:

  • Language: Did we want this to be just one (primary) language, or did we want to include a list of (potentially) several languages. For several what criteria are used for determining inclusion.
  • Status: Maksim asked to include a list of Status types (minor race, minor human race). This seems utterly redundant to me, but opinons are sought.

All feedback is requested and welcomed. Tjoneslo (talk) 14:47, 28 October 2018 (EDT)


Comma for the languages.

  • TL & TL-Epoch for the tech.
  • Atmo & Grav.
  • Terrain or Environ?
  • Please.
- Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 07:47, 30 October 2018 (EDT)
I now understand why you want the list of status type. It's unnecessary to allow the template to add categories to the page since they should obvious if you select the primary one correctly. The status should be one category (a primary one), and the template will derive the other categories as needed.
Using the term "Minor non-human race" is redundant. None of the minor races are human (a major race) by definition.
The term "Variant Race" is undefined. Which race is it a variant of?
Do you have examples of Variant races that are not Chimera or Ethnic Groups?
"terrain" is the term used in the Template:Animal and referenced by the T5 core rules.
The inclusion of the full UWP should capture the gravity, atmosphere, hydrographics, and Tech Level of the homeworld. (if known).
I'd like the simpler version of the Epoch, it make entering the values correctly easier.