https://wiki.travellerrpg.com/index.php?title=Forum:Rename_New_Traveller%3F&feed=atom&action=historyForum:Rename New Traveller? - Revision history2024-03-29T06:31:21ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.35.4https://wiki.travellerrpg.com/index.php?title=Forum:Rename_New_Traveller%3F&diff=672837&oldid=prevTjoneslo at 13:53, 21 November 20212021-11-21T13:53:29Z<p></p>
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</table>Tjoneslohttps://wiki.travellerrpg.com/index.php?title=Forum:Rename_New_Traveller%3F&diff=671000&oldid=prevTjoneslo at 15:08, 13 November 20212021-11-13T15:08:21Z<p></p>
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</table>Tjoneslohttps://wiki.travellerrpg.com/index.php?title=Forum:Rename_New_Traveller%3F&diff=662390&oldid=prevAtymes at 03:34, 8 September 20212021-09-08T03:34:55Z<p></p>
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This topic has been brought up several times but to no resolution. The Mongoose Traveller 2nd edition rules are and were never referred to in those terms by Mongoose publishing. The term "New Traveller" was adopted when Mongoose first started publishing the new edition and was adopted by the Wiki. But Mongoose no longer refers to this edition as "New Traveller". So the term now becomes confusing.<br />
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First problem, naming things is hard. The wiki needs to distinguish between the "Mongoose Traveller" book and the "New Traveller" books. So if we're not going to call the edition "New Traveller" anymore, what do we call it? <br />
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If we decide to make this change there are three things that need to be updated: <br />
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# The article names for the books have "New Traveller" in the title. These would need to be changes (page moved) to the new version name (50 articles based upon a quick search).<br />
# The [[Template:InfoboxBook2|InfoboxBook2]] has a version parameter which needs to be updated (88 articles based on the category). <br />
# All of the [[Template:Ludography cite|Ludography cite]] and [[Template:Page cite|Page cite]] templates (823 based upon a quick search) would need to be updated. <br />
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The good news is most of this can be automated. Just simply a matter of running an update script based upon old and new names. <br />
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My preference would be "Mongoose 2nd", which flows along with "Traveller 5th". Are there other / better / preferred suggestions? [[User:Tjoneslo|Tjoneslo]] ([[User talk:Tjoneslo|talk]]) 07:59, 31 August 2021 (EDT)</div>Tjoneslo