Forum:Expanded UWP (2017)
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User:Tjoneslo, I think we need to rethink the all eggs in one basket approach to the UWP for classic era and TNE. I like it, but it is becoming apparent that different pages for each time zone would be a better idea. I get a lot of negative feedback for that feature and the whole History & Background section changes between ages.
- Let's not dump the data, which is cool, but let's separate each era into a new page.
- Astrography almost never changes (although sometimes it does), but history and the sociographic features almost always do.
- Let's discuss, please.
- - Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 19:21, 19 March 2017 (EDT)
- This is an old debate, with no consensus about how to resolve it. I view the text of the write-up for the world as more important than the generated infoboxes. So my approach focuses on this text, and relegates the infoboxes, and other generated text (e.g. Template:Starport and Template:Imperial Nobility) to secondary importance.
- The Manual of Style/sector and Manual of Style/subsector advanced layouts have one approach to splitting the History and Background section by era. Is this sufficient?
- - What is the default era for world articles? That is, absent of other information what is the assumed date of an article?
- - If the world has data for more than one era, what is the data presented at the top of the main article? Even if this requires splitting up the UWP?
- - If we are spitting the text (and the infoboxes/generated data) by era into separate sub-pages, how does the main article link to these sub-pages? Part of the debate we had was the extra click required to read all the historical data if they were on separate pages.
- Tjoneslo (talk) 07:41, 20 March 2017 (EDT)
- This is where the committee approach fails Traveller.
- There are so many damnable clicks that one more is really not appreciable.
- The default is Classic Traveller pegged at the Fifth Frontier War so Milieu 1100.
- Put a navigation bar at the top of each worls-system article marking which era or milieu the bar belongs to. Multiple choices will be available for most entries.
- This is exactly how Star Wars and Trek handle the same challenge.
- Just be aware that sometimes the fixed data, as in the Astrography & Planetology, do change. Planets get destroyed. Climates change. Nuclear winter. **it happens.
- - Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 07:27, 23 March 2017 (EDT)