Talk:Order of Deneb

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Notes (2019)

I think it would be a good thing to reach out to Marc and get his blessing on the structure of the Order of Deneb. We have Companions, Knights, and the we Jump to a Grand Commander. Given the scope of being a Domain level order I would suggest broaching the subject of Knight Commanders within the order.

- Bleddyn Wilson(talk) 1510 AST , 24 Feb 2019 (AST)
I agree. The other option would be to change the "Grand Commander" rank to "Knight Commander" (omitting Grand Commander altogether) in line with 4 of the 6 other Domain Orders (Vland only uses "Knight" and "Grand Knight").
  • Note that the Royal Order of Antares also suffers from the same structural oddity as the Order of Deneb, though in the case of Antares the fact that it is styled the "Royal Order" might justify the more illustrious title for the senior rank.
--WHULorigan (talk) 05:59, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

Additionally, I have had another thought concerning Orders of Knighthood in general. Some of the typical ranks in British orders can include (though not all orders include all of these levels):

  • Grand Master (senior-most Knight Grand Commander and head of the order)
  • Knight Grand Commander (or Knight Grand Cross)
  • Knight Commander
  • Knight (Officer)
  • Knight or Knight Companion
  • Commander or Companion
  • Officer
  • Member or Frater/Soror

To my knowledge, in British usage, not all members of an order are technically knights; some levels are merely non-knightly member-associates of the order. In general, the levels/ranks within the order that confer actual knighthood have the term "knight" somewhere in the name of the level. Lower levels without the term "knight" explicitly in them are not technically a "knight" (although it is often common practice when granting such a lower-level title to also secondarily grant a bachelor knighthood along with it). This would be an interesting way of distinguishing what makes a person C6/Soc = 10 (A) ("Imperial Gentleman") as compared to simply the average person of the local gentry (C6/Soc = 9). So someone with Soc=10 might be "John Smith, OD", or "Eneri Ishli, MD". An actual knight of the order (C6/Soc = 11 (B)) might then be "Sir William Worthington, KD" or "Sir Franics Lisadi, KCD".

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