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== BtC aliens ==
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== Links (2019) ==
I think the "new" aliens from Behind the Claw are attempted imports from the author's own universe... and are not canon.
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# EXTERNAL LINK: [https://www.facebook.com/groups/travellerrpg/permalink/2395105917274236/ Okay everyone, what is your favourite minor race? do you have your own creations?]
[[User:Rje|Rje]] ([[User talk:Rje|talk]]) 21:21, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
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# EXTERNAL LINK: [http://www.republicofnewhome.org/oldlair/games/traveller/worlds/explore.html Dragoness Electic Alien List]
 
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: - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 22:38, 20 July 2019 (EDT)
== Deneb Sector aliens ==
 
They're all intended to be canon.  Is there a reason some are marked "non"?
 
[[User:Rje|Rje]] ([[User talk:Rje|talk]]) 21:21, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
 
  
== Notes (2018) ==
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== Links (2018) ==
 
# External Link: [https://io9.gizmodo.com/5784971/how-to-create-a-scientifically-plausible-alien-life-form How to Create a Scientifically Plausible Alien Life Form ]
 
# External Link: [https://io9.gizmodo.com/5784971/how-to-create-a-scientifically-plausible-alien-life-form How to Create a Scientifically Plausible Alien Life Form ]
 
# External Link: [https://www.facebook.com/groups/travellerrpg/permalink/1548113128640190/  Humans are space orks.]
 
# External Link: [https://www.facebook.com/groups/travellerrpg/permalink/1548113128640190/  Humans are space orks.]
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:- [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 07:31, 23 January 2018 (EST)
 
:- [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 07:31, 23 January 2018 (EST)
  
== Notes (2017) ==
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== Links (2017) ==
 
# External Link: [http://worldsbeyondearth.blogspot.com/2015/02/how-to-stat-alien-species.html  How to stat an alien species]
 
# External Link: [http://worldsbeyondearth.blogspot.com/2015/02/how-to-stat-alien-species.html  How to stat an alien species]
 
# External Link: [https://www.facebook.com/groups/travellerrpg/permalink/1505417916243045/  ...the aliens felt a bit dated so, anyone know of any alternate races for the game?]
 
# External Link: [https://www.facebook.com/groups/travellerrpg/permalink/1505417916243045/  ...the aliens felt a bit dated so, anyone know of any alternate races for the game?]
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# External Link: [http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/showthread.php?t=33430 strange/less-humanlike aliens ]  
 
# External Link: [http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/showthread.php?t=33430 strange/less-humanlike aliens ]  
 
: - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 21:45, 27 January 2017 (EST)
 
: - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 21:45, 27 January 2017 (EST)
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== Notes (2018) ==
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* [[Denuli]] AKA [[Shrieker]]
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* [[Dk'arek]]
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* [[Gifug'kagh]] AKA [[Girug'kagh]] AKA [[Savezitaisoh]]
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* [[Lalendrian]]
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* [[Lasat]]
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* [[Luupim]]
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* [[Malornian]]
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* [[Mwawmbijebe]]
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* [[Peth]]
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* [[Tagi]]
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: - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 19:17, 10 December 2018 (EST)
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== BtC aliens (2018) ==
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I think the "new" aliens from [[Behind the Claw]] are attempted imports from the author's own universe... and are not canon.
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: - [[User:Rje|Rje]] ([[User talk:Rje|talk]]) 21:21, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
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Thanks for the note. Can ask Marc.
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: - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 07:43, 18 October 2018 (EDT)
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Some are. Some aren't.
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: - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 19:23, 10 December 2018 (EST)
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== Deneb Sector aliens (2018) ==
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They're all intended to be canon.  Is there a reason some are marked "non"?
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[[User:Rje|Rje]] ([[User talk:Rje|talk]]) 21:21, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
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Nooone has updated it yet. Thanks for the catch.
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: - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 07:43, 18 October 2018 (EDT)
  
 
== Ulane Notes (2016) ==
 
== Ulane Notes (2016) ==
 
Why are the Ulane listed here? Aren't they supposed to be [[Ulane Hoax|fake]]?  
 
Why are the Ulane listed here? Aren't they supposed to be [[Ulane Hoax|fake]]?  
* [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 16:35, 9 February 2016 (EST)
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: - [[User:77topaz|77topaz]] ([[User talk:77topaz|talk]]) 16:35, 9 February 2016 (EST)
  
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: I do not know. I took them from the existing material. I know of the story, but I haven't checked Don's list to see their canonicity yet.  
 
: I do not know. I took them from the existing material. I know of the story, but I haven't checked Don's list to see their canonicity yet.  
 
: - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 17:22, 9 February 2016 (EST)
 
: - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 17:22, 9 February 2016 (EST)
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::: Topaz, I've been trying to make sense of it for awhile. I read the old TD journals and it's still confusing. It's practical joke with a multi-decade life... LOL Either way, a little alien creation won't hurt and we can always correct it later. Right now, I've been wanting to expand Don's sophont list and that ''Non-Human Minor Race'' page is my creative process. One of us should probably bring this to T5SS.  
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::: Topaz, I've been trying to make sense of it for awhile. I read the old TD journals and it's still confusing. It's a practical joke with a multi-decade life... LOL Either way, a little alien creation won't hurt and we can always correct it later. Right now, I've been wanting to expand Don's sophont list and that ''Non-Human Minor Race'' page is my creative process. One of us should probably bring this to T5SS.  
 
::: - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 08:38, 10 February 2016 (EST)
 
::: - [[User:Maksim-Smelchak|Maksim-Smelchak]] ([[User talk:Maksim-Smelchak|talk]]) 08:38, 10 February 2016 (EST)
  
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== Smelchak Notes (2016) ==
 
== Smelchak Notes (2016) ==
 
=== Key (Parameters) ===
 
=== Key (Parameters) ===
* Demonym / Socionym (Name of species AKA "other names")
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* [[Demonym]] / [[Socionym]] (Name of species AKA "other names")
 
** Nickname / popular nomenclature
 
** Nickname / popular nomenclature
* Physiology / Morphology
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* [[Physiology]] / [[Morphology]]
** (Identification) (1 of 5 choices)
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** [[Bio-Identenoid]] (Identification) (1 of 5 choices)
 
*** (Phylum) + (-oid)
 
*** (Phylum) + (-oid)
 
*** (Class) + (-oid)
 
*** (Class) + (-oid)
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*** Undesignated
 
*** Undesignated
 
*** Unknown
 
*** Unknown
** Confluence (human likeness: i.e. semi-humanoid)
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** [[Confluence]] (human likeness: i.e. semi-humanoid)
*** Human
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*** [[Human]]
*** Humanoid
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*** [[Humanoid]]
*** Semi-humanoid
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*** [[Semi-humanoid]]
*** Non-humanoid
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*** [[Non-humanoid]]
** Locomotion (movement type/s)
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** [[Locomotion]] (movement type/s)
 
*** Amphibious
 
*** Amphibious
 
*** Ambulatory walker (?-ped)
 
*** Ambulatory walker (?-ped)
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*** Swimmer
 
*** Swimmer
 
** Other remarks
 
** Other remarks
*** Exotic biochemistry + (molecule + -oid) [e.g. silicon AKA silicoids, etc.]
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*** Exotic [[biochemistry]] + (molecule + -oid) [e.g. silicon AKA [[silicoid]]s, [[etc.]]]
 
*** Exotic biology (unconventional AKA "not life as we know it": machine-life, plasma-life, "dry life", etc. ...conventional biology are carbon-water bio-chemical/bio-organic species "wet life"...)
 
*** Exotic biology (unconventional AKA "not life as we know it": machine-life, plasma-life, "dry life", etc. ...conventional biology are carbon-water bio-chemical/bio-organic species "wet life"...)
*** Terragens (Yes, the Vargr are Terragens... So are dolphins, Orca, Ursa, Uplifted Apes, etc.)
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*** [[Terragen]]s (Yes, the Vargr are Terragens... So are dolphins, Orca, Ursa, Uplifted Apes, etc.)
*** Variant race AKA chimerae
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*** [[Variant race]] AKA [[chimera]]e
*** etc.
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*** [[etc.]]
  
* Trophics ([[Animal classification]] "creature classification")
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* [[Trophics]] ([[Animal classification]] "creature classification")
 
** Autotroph
 
** Autotroph
 
** Carnivore
 
** Carnivore
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*** Some consider ice balls terrestrial while others do not.
 
*** Some consider ice balls terrestrial while others do not.
 
** Exotic
 
** Exotic
*** Hyperspace
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*** [[Hyperspace]]
 
*** Other (not accounted for by any other category)
 
*** Other (not accounted for by any other category)
*** Dark matter
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*** [[Dark matter]]
*** Stellar (Stellar worlds consist mostly of plasma and are commonly called ''stars'')
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*** Stellar (Stellar worlds consist mostly of plasma and are commonly called ''[[star]]s'')
 
**** (star type)
 
**** (star type)
 
**** BH series
 
**** BH series
 
**** Neutron
 
**** Neutron
*** Vacuum (no atmosphere, open to space)
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*** [[Vacuum]] (no atmosphere, open to space)
  
* Homeworld
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* [[Homeworld]]
 
** Home system if not world-bound
 
** Home system if not world-bound
* G (Gravity: based upon size and density of world)
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* G ([[Gravity]]: based upon size and density of world)
 
** Micro (near-weightless)
 
** Micro (near-weightless)
 
** Low (light gravity = willowy, thin, wirey, elongated, fast)
 
** Low (light gravity = willowy, thin, wirey, elongated, fast)
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** Macro (crushing)
 
** Macro (crushing)
  
* A (Atmosphere) / Pressure
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* A ([[Atmosphere]]) / Pressure
 
** Vacuum (no atmosphere)
 
** Vacuum (no atmosphere)
 
** Very thin (near vacuum)
 
** Very thin (near vacuum)
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*** (taint)
 
*** (taint)
  
* H (Hydrosphere)
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* H ([[Hydrosphere]])
** Arid (anhydrous)
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** Super Arid (anhydrous)
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** Arid (near anhydrous)
 
** Standard (wet)
 
** Standard (wet)
** Marine (superhydrous)
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** Marine (near superhydrous)
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** Super Marine (superhydrous)
  
 
* Origin ([[NIL]] source)
 
* Origin ([[NIL]] source)
 
** Evolution
 
** Evolution
 
** Geneering (genetic engineering)
 
** Geneering (genetic engineering)
** Uplift: (Who?)
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** [[Uplift]]: (Who?)
  
 
* [[Jump Drive]] (See [[Jump Drive/meta]])  
 
* [[Jump Drive]] (See [[Jump Drive/meta]])  
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**** 9-series  
 
**** 9-series  
 
*** Post-[[FTL]]
 
*** Post-[[FTL]]
**** Trans-Dim. (trans-dimensional) 25-27
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**** Trans-Dim. (trans-dimensional) TL:28-30
**** Ascendant race (precursor, forerunner, ancients, etc.) 28-30
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**** Transcendent Race TL:28-30
**** Chronotaxis (time travel) 28-30
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**** Ascendant race ([[precursor]], forerunner, ancients, etc.) TL:31-33
**** Transcendent race 31-33+
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**** Chronotaxis (time travel) TL:31-33
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**** Transcendent race TL:31-33+
 
** (Who gave it?)
 
** (Who gave it?)
 
*** Ancients
 
*** Ancients
 
*** Major race
 
*** Major race
 
*** Minor race
 
*** Minor race
*** Mystery
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*** Mystery (Unknown)
  
* Polity (state)
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* [[Polity]] (state)
 
** (name of polity)
 
** (name of polity)
 
** anarchy (chaos)
 
** anarchy (chaos)
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** Apolitical
 
** Apolitical
  
* Canon (canonicity)
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* [[Canon]] (canonicity)
 
** Canon
 
** Canon
 
** Non
 
** Non

Latest revision as of 09:34, 15 September 2019

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Links (2019)[edit]

  1. EXTERNAL LINK: Okay everyone, what is your favourite minor race? do you have your own creations?
  2. EXTERNAL LINK: Dragoness Electic Alien List
- Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 22:38, 20 July 2019 (EDT)

Links (2018)[edit]

  1. External Link: How to Create a Scientifically Plausible Alien Life Form
  2. External Link: Humans are space orks.
  3. External Link: Human isn't a language.
  4. External Link: Flowers Communicate with Electricity
- Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 07:31, 23 January 2018 (EST)

Links (2017)[edit]

  1. External Link: How to stat an alien species
  2. External Link: ...the aliens felt a bit dated so, anyone know of any alternate races for the game?
  3. External Link: Alien In Innovation: Creating Original Non-human Species
  4. External Link: strange/less-humanlike aliens
- Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 21:45, 27 January 2017 (EST)

Notes (2018)[edit]

- Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 19:17, 10 December 2018 (EST)

BtC aliens (2018)[edit]

I think the "new" aliens from Behind the Claw are attempted imports from the author's own universe... and are not canon.

- Rje (talk) 21:21, 16 October 2018 (EDT)

Thanks for the note. Can ask Marc.

- Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 07:43, 18 October 2018 (EDT)

Some are. Some aren't.

- Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 19:23, 10 December 2018 (EST)

Deneb Sector aliens (2018)[edit]

They're all intended to be canon. Is there a reason some are marked "non"? Rje (talk) 21:21, 16 October 2018 (EDT)


Nooone has updated it yet. Thanks for the catch.

- Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 07:43, 18 October 2018 (EDT)

Ulane Notes (2016)[edit]

Why are the Ulane listed here? Aren't they supposed to be fake?

- 77topaz (talk) 16:35, 9 February 2016 (EST)

I do not know. I took them from the existing material. I know of the story, but I haven't checked Don's list to see their canonicity yet.
- Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 17:22, 9 February 2016 (EST)

I just looked at the Traveller 5 Second Survey data, and that makes things even more ambiguous. It does include worlds with Ulane sophont codes, but places them in the Union of Harmony instead of the Ulane Hierate. It seems like the T5SS somehow combined those two polities.
- 77topaz (talk) 20:04, 9 February 2016 (EST)

Topaz, I've been trying to make sense of it for awhile. I read the old TD journals and it's still confusing. It's a practical joke with a multi-decade life... LOL Either way, a little alien creation won't hurt and we can always correct it later. Right now, I've been wanting to expand Don's sophont list and that Non-Human Minor Race page is my creative process. One of us should probably bring this to T5SS.
- Maksim-Smelchak (talk) 08:38, 10 February 2016 (EST)

Whulorigan Research (2016)[edit]

  1. External Link: Are there details of things from the book....

Threep is an alternate term for the Tripods according to AotI; they are located on the T5.00 CD-ROM: a picture is found in a separate file on the CD called "T5 Sophont Tripod Basic". Note that the concept appearance is somewhat different than in the AotI diagram.

  • To my knowledge, this is the first mention of them in any published source.

The following are all first-mention (to my knowledge) somewhere on the T5 CDROM:

  1. Plexxan –See T5.00, p.114, 276, 638; (also in AotI)
  2. Qliq (Separate File - "T5 Sophont Qliq Basic")
  3. Schilrathen of Poros 3 –See T5.00, p.368
  4. Tinroa (Native to Shvireeyiyi/Foreven) -See T5.00, p.513, 558
  5. Tripod (Separate File - "T5 Sophont Tripod Basic") = Threep

Smelchak Notes (2016)[edit]

Key (Parameters)[edit]

  • Demonym / Socionym (Name of species AKA "other names")
    • Nickname / popular nomenclature
  • Physiology / Morphology
    • Bio-Identenoid (Identification) (1 of 5 choices)
      • (Phylum) + (-oid)
      • (Class) + (-oid)
      • (Other) + (-oid)
      • Undesignated
      • Unknown
    • Confluence (human likeness: i.e. semi-humanoid)
    • Locomotion (movement type/s)
      • Amphibious
      • Ambulatory walker (?-ped)
      • Exotic locomotion
      • Flyer
      • Flyphibious
      • Swimmer
    • Other remarks
      • Exotic biochemistry + (molecule + -oid) [e.g. silicon AKA silicoids, etc.]
      • Exotic biology (unconventional AKA "not life as we know it": machine-life, plasma-life, "dry life", etc. ...conventional biology are carbon-water bio-chemical/bio-organic species "wet life"...)
      • Terragens (Yes, the Vargr are Terragens... So are dolphins, Orca, Ursa, Uplifted Apes, etc.)
      • Variant race AKA chimerae
      • etc.
  • World type (by state of matter except for exotics)
    • Jovian (mostly gaseous)
    • Liquidian (mostly liquid)
      • Different from Ocean worlds, which tend to have large solid cores.
      • A true fluid world would be mostly liquidinous
    • Terrestrial (mostly solid)
      • Ocean worlds (mostly liquid) are generally still terrestrial
      • Fluid worlds tend also to have large sold cores
      • Some consider ice balls terrestrial while others do not.
    • Exotic
      • Hyperspace
      • Other (not accounted for by any other category)
      • Dark matter
      • Stellar (Stellar worlds consist mostly of plasma and are commonly called stars)
        • (star type)
        • BH series
        • Neutron
      • Vacuum (no atmosphere, open to space)
  • Homeworld
    • Home system if not world-bound
  • G (Gravity: based upon size and density of world)
    • Micro (near-weightless)
    • Low (light gravity = willowy, thin, wirey, elongated, fast)
    • Standard (normative)
    • High (heavy gravity = stocky, strong, slow)
    • Macro (crushing)
  • A (Atmosphere) / Pressure
    • Vacuum (no atmosphere)
    • Very thin (near vacuum)
    • Thin (low)
    • Standard (Normative)
    • Dense (high)
    • Very dense (extremely high)
    • Exotic
      • (taint)
  • H (Hydrosphere)
    • Super Arid (anhydrous)
    • Arid (near anhydrous)
    • Standard (wet)
    • Marine (near superhydrous)
    • Super Marine (superhydrous)
  • Origin (NIL source)
    • Evolution
    • Geneering (genetic engineering)
    • Uplift: (Who?)
  • Jump Drive (See Jump Drive/meta)
    • (FTL Achievement Level)
      • Pre-FTL: Non-spacefaring
        • Pre-flight
        • Flight
      • Pre-FTL: NAFAL spaceflight (mono-systemic) STL
      • Pre-FTL: NAFAL starflight (poly-systemic, multi-) STL
      • FTL
        • J-series (jump) 0.
        • H-series (hop) 1.
        • S-series (skip) 2.
        • L-series (leap) 3.
        • B-series (bound) 4.
        • V-series (vault) 5.
        • 6-series
        • 7-series
        • 8-series
        • 9-series
      • Post-FTL
        • Trans-Dim. (trans-dimensional) TL:28-30
        • Transcendent Race TL:28-30
        • Ascendant race (precursor, forerunner, ancients, etc.) TL:31-33
        • Chronotaxis (time travel) TL:31-33
        • Transcendent race TL:31-33+
    • (Who gave it?)
      • Ancients
      • Major race
      • Minor race
      • Mystery (Unknown)
  • Polity (state)
    • (name of polity)
    • anarchy (chaos)
    • (balkanized)
    • band society (tribe)
    • Unknown
    • Unnamed
    • Unorganized
    • Apolitical
  • Canon (canonicity)
    • Canon
    • Non
  • Note/s (remarks)
    • Supra-polity relationship
      • Independent polity
      • Ally
      • Member state
      • Protectorate
      • Reservation
      • Subjugate (Subject state)
    • (Proto-sophont?)
      • Yes
      • No (no entry - default)
    • Other bio- or socio-notes
      • Aptitudes (talents)
      • Disciplines (See T5)
      • Proclivities (behavioral preferences)

Limbs (2016)[edit]

What is and isn't a limb? (4-ped)?

  • Appendage
  • Limb
  • Locomotor
  • Manipulator

IS:

  • Arm
  • Flipper
  • Leg
  • Most limbs with bones
  • Some gastropodic locomotor surfaces
  • Some reproductive appendages
  • Some tentacles
  • Wing
  • Almost any specialized limb intended for locomotion
  • Almost any specialized limb intended for manipulation

IS NOT:

  • Most gastropodic locomotor surfaces
  • Insect wing (comes from exoskeleton)
  • Mandible
  • Micromanipulators
  • Most boneless limbs
  • Most reproductive appendages (genital, ovipositor, etc.)
  • Pseudopod
  • Some tentacles
  • Tail
  • Trunk

Author:

Blank Template (2016)[edit]

Minor Race Claimant Descriptions
Demonym /

Socionym

Physiology /

Morphology

Trophics

(ccc)

Environ

(-ment)

Homeworld

(HW)

Gravity

(G)

Atmosphere

(A)

Hydrosphere

(H)

Sophonce /

Origin

Jump

Drive

Polity Canon Remarks
ZOWIE Unknown
  • Non-humanoid
  • Ambulatory walker (?-ped)
Unknown Terrestrial Unknown Standard Standard Standard

(wet)

NIL:
Evolution
Pre-FTL:

Non-spacefaring

World-State:

(balkanized)

Canon Unknown
  • Exotic psychology