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* Companion or Frater/Soror or Member
 
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To my knowledge, in British usage, not all members of an order are technically knights; some levels are merely non-knightly member-associates of the order.  In general, the levels/ranks within the order that confer actual knighthood have the term "knight" somewhere in the name of the level.  Lower levels without the term "knight" explicitly in them are not technically a "knight" (although it is often common practice when granting such a lower-level title to also secondarily grant a bachelor knighthood along with it).  This would be an interesting way of distinguishing what makes a person C6/Soc = 10 (A) ("Imperial Gentleman") as compared to simply the average person of the local gentry (C6/Soc = 9).  So someone with Soc=10 might be "''John Smith, OD''", or "''Eneri Ishli, MD''".  An actual knight of the order (C6/Soc = 11 (B)) might then be "''Sir William Worthington, KD''" or "''Sir Franics Lisadi, KCD''".  
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To my knowledge, in British usage, not all members of an order are technically knights; some levels are merely non-knightly member-associates of the order.  In general, the levels/ranks within the order that confer actual knighthood have the term "knight" somewhere in the name of the level.  Lower levels without the term "knight" explicitly in them are not technically a "knight" (although it is often common practice when granting such a lower-level title to also secondarily grant a bachelor knighthood along with it).  This would be an interesting way of distinguishing what makes a person C6/Soc = 10 (A) ("Imperial Gentleman") as compared to simply the average person of the local gentry (C6/Soc = 9).  So (in the Order of the Third Imperium, for example) someone with Soc=10 might be "''John Smith, OTI''", or "''Eneri Ishli, MTI''".  An actual knight of the order (C6/Soc = 11 (B)) might then be "''Sir William Worthington, KTI''" or "''Sir Franics Lisadi, KCTI''".  
 
* --[[User:WHULorigan|WHULorigan]] ([[User talk:WHULorigan|talk]]) 22:07, 24 February 2019 (EST)
 
* --[[User:WHULorigan|WHULorigan]] ([[User talk:WHULorigan|talk]]) 22:07, 24 February 2019 (EST)

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Notes (2019)

I have had a thought concerning Orders of Knighthood in general. Some of the typical ranks in British orders can include (though not all orders include all of these levels):

  • Grand Master (senior-most Knight Grand Commander and head of the order)
  • Knight Grand Commander (or Knight Grand Cross)
  • Knight Commander
  • Knight (Officer)
  • Knight
  • Commander
  • Officer
  • Companion or Frater/Soror or Member

To my knowledge, in British usage, not all members of an order are technically knights; some levels are merely non-knightly member-associates of the order. In general, the levels/ranks within the order that confer actual knighthood have the term "knight" somewhere in the name of the level. Lower levels without the term "knight" explicitly in them are not technically a "knight" (although it is often common practice when granting such a lower-level title to also secondarily grant a bachelor knighthood along with it). This would be an interesting way of distinguishing what makes a person C6/Soc = 10 (A) ("Imperial Gentleman") as compared to simply the average person of the local gentry (C6/Soc = 9). So (in the Order of the Third Imperium, for example) someone with Soc=10 might be "John Smith, OTI", or "Eneri Ishli, MTI". An actual knight of the order (C6/Soc = 11 (B)) might then be "Sir William Worthington, KTI" or "Sir Franics Lisadi, KCTI".